[gpfsug-discuss] mass recall from on-prem COS using a policy

Tom Chandler Tom.Chandler at ibm.com
Thu Jul 21 20:35:37 BST 2022


Oh my gosh, embarrassing, wrong window…. Pls disregard, apologies for wasted bandwidth..

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30 years in IT, in 3 different continents, participated in 50 countries with IBM projects… yeah I feel stupid I’ve should have known better,  very unprofessional on my part… my apologies…

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Adding back Amey in the chain. Paul please explicitly add Amey in your replies. Regards, The Spectrum Scale (GPFS) team ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍
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Adding back Amey in the chain.
Paul please explicitly add Amey in your replies.

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I used the template policy, substituting where applicable: # more /gpfs/nhmfsa/custom/valentine-migrations/policy/iac-workspace_axio-imager_2021.pol /******************************************************************************* ‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍
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I used the template policy, substituting where applicable:

# more /gpfs/nhmfsa/custom/valentine-migrations/policy/iac-workspace_axio-imager_2021.pol
/*******************************************************************************
* Licensed Materials - Property of IBM
*
*  OCO Source Materials
*
*  (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 2016-2017 All Rights Reserved
*
*  The source code for this program is not published or other-
*  wise divested of its trade secrets, irrespective of what has
*  been deposited with the U.S. Copyright Office.
*******************************************************************************/

define(
        exclude_list,
        (
         FALSE
         OR PATH_NAME LIKE '%/.mcstore/%'
        )
)

RULE EXTERNAL POOL 'migrate' EXEC '/usr/lpp/mmfs/bin/mmcloudgateway files' OPTS '-F' ESCAPE '% -'

/*
RULE EXTERNAL POOL 'mcstore' EXEC '/usr/lpp/mmfs/bin/mmcloudgateway files' OPTS '-F' ESCAPE '% -'


        RULE 'dmrecall1' MIGRATE FROM POOL 'mcstore' TO POOL 'system' WHERE
        (
        (
        PATH_NAME LIKE '/gpfs/test_dir/%'
        )
        AND NOT (exclude_list)
        )
*/


RULE 'migrate_bulk_workspace_axioimager_2021' MIGRATE FROM POOL 'migrate' TO POOL 'data' WHERE
(
        (
                PATH_NAME LIKE '/gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/%'
        )
        AND NOT (exclude_list)
)

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I changed to the folder listed in the path and ran this command, with the defer option:

# pwd
/gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021
]# mmapplypolicy  $(pwd) -f $(pwd)/policy-lists -I defer -L 3 -P /gpfs/nhmfsa/custom/valentine-migrations/policy/iac-workspace_axio-imager_2021.pol

The result of the policy was:

[I] Summary of Rule Applicability and File Choices:
Rule#      Hit_Cnt          KB_Hit          Chosen       KB_Chosen          KB_Ill     Rule
     0          994               0             994      1566373796      1566373796     RULE 'migrate_bulk_workspace_axioimager_2021' MIGRATE FROM POOL 'migrate' TO POOL 'data' WHERE(.)

[I] Filesystem objects with no applicable rules: 53.

[I] GPFS Policy Decisions and File Choice Totals:
Chose to migrate 1566373796KB: 994 of 994 candidates;
1566373796KB of chosen data is illplaced or illreplicated;
Predicted Data Pool Utilization in KB and %:
Pool_Name                   KB_Occupied        KB_Total  Percent_Occupied
data                       175459129252    245111980032     71.583253185%
system                                0               0      0.000000000% (no user data)
[I] Because some data is illplaced or illreplicated, predicted pool utilization may be negative and/or misleading!
[I] 2022-07-20 at 14:22:23.943<mailto:2022-07-20 at 14:22:23.943> Policy execution. 0 files dispatched.
[I] A total of 0 files have been migrated, deleted or processed by an EXTERNAL EXEC/script;
        0 'skipped' files and/or errors.

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Its selected about the right number, as there are :
# find -type f | wc -l
996

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the head of the deferred output file list:
15:27:41 [root at scale-sk-pn-1 2021]# head policy-lists.recall.migrate
9085980 2146238895 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FRobin Armstrong 2021%2FThumbs.db
30157518 903677244 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-113_RL_s0c0x0-8849y0-8889.tif
30157519 321389117 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-113_TL.czi
30157520 1970925505 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-113_TL_s0c0x0-8846y0-8892.tif
30157521 1773348368 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-113_TL_s0c0x0-8849y0-8889.tif
30157522 2126423502 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_RL.czi
30157523 1701851598 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_RL_s0c0x0-6359y0-6656.tif
30157524 1844809347 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_TL.czi
30157525 912638442 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-6656.tif
30157526 1280698844 0   -- %2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-7609.tif
….

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If I try to recall the file from these paths:

# mmcloudgateway files recall "%2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-7609.tif"
mmcloudgateway: Internal cloud services returned an error:

file system object /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/%2Fgpfs%2Fnhmfsa%2Fbulk%2Fshare%2Fworkspace%2Fiac-workspace%2Flight_microscopy%2Fzeiss_axioimager_m2%2F2021%2FMatt Loader 2021%2FML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-7609.tif does not exist

mmcloudgateway: Command failed. Examine previous error messages to determine cause.

It seems the highlighted part is the current directory, as I tried from another location and it picked up the pwd I was in.

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If I Give it the correctly formed path, it works:
# mmcloudgateway files recall "/gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-7609.tif"
mmcloudgateway: Command completed.


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I also ran a policy just to identify migrated files:
define(ismigrated,
   ( MISC_ATTRIBUTES LIKE '%V%') )


Rule 'migrated' LIST 'migrated_list'  WHERE ismigrated
Rule 'resident' LIST 'resident_list'  WHERE not (ismigrated)

----------------------------------------------------------------

The head of that file correctly forms the posix path…

15:35:38 [root at scale-sk-pn-1 2021]# head list.migrated_list
9085980 2146238895 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Robin Armstrong 2021/Thumbs.db
30157518 903677244 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-113_RL_s0c0x0-8849y0-8889.tif
30157519 321389117 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-113_TL.czi
30157520 1970925505 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-113_TL_s0c0x0-8846y0-8892.tif
30157521 1773348368 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-113_TL_s0c0x0-8849y0-8889.tif
30157522 2126423502 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_RL.czi
30157523 1701851598 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_RL_s0c0x0-6359y0-6656.tif
30157524 1844809347 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_TL.czi
30157525 912638442 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-6656.tif
30157526 1280698844 0   -- /gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/light_microscopy/zeiss_axioimager_m2/2021/Matt Loader 2021/ML210215_OT-29_TL_s0c0x0-6359y0-7609.tif


What’s going on?

What I have done in the past is take the output from my ‘ismigrated’ policy.
Put recall commands before each path.
Divide the file into 4 parts, and run each part of one of our 4 protocol nodes.
Manually doing what mmapplypolicy should do!

From: gpfsug-discuss <gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org<mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org>> On Behalf Of Amey P Gokhale
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Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] mass recall from on-prem COS using a policy

Paul – Recall policy looks to be correct. I see that it is in line with /opt/ibm/MCStore/samples/recallFromCloud.template.

  1.  At the end of policy run, what does the stats indicate, such as “X Files migrated, Y skipped/error” etc?  I assume the path you have specified, has the files in ‘non-resident’ state, which you are trying to recall using the policy. Correct? Reason I ask this is because you mentioned around 650G data to be recalled, but policy seems to have chosen ~2.5G data across 4812 files. So if this path is actively used by users, it is likely that the files may have been transparently recalled on access, and are in co-resident state already. Hence no data movement visible.
  2.  In /var/MCStore/ras/logs/mcstore.log, do you see any recall specific errors, when you run the policy?
  3.  On our test setup, we are planning to run similar policy once, to see if error is reproducible. I will share what we find.

AMEY GOKHALE
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Hi Amey,

Can you provide them guidance from TCT angle.

Regards, The Spectrum Scale (GPFS) team

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Thank you. Ill-placed on ESS or COS? I understood restriping was for NSDs, so that would be on our ESS not COS? The direction I want to move the files is from COS to ESS. We do not have AFM enabled, we are using TCT. ‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍
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Ill-placed on ESS or COS?

I understood restriping was for NSDs, so that would be on our ESS not COS?
The direction I want to move the files is from COS to ESS.

We do not have AFM enabled, we are using TCT.

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 "KB_Ill" shows how much data are ill placed or ill replicated.  They can be resolved by mmrestripefs or mmrestripefile.
Copying to AFM team regarding recall in AFM-COS environment.

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Hi all, I need to recall from on-prem COS a folder with subfolders and files, approximately 4600 files making up 656G. We have a policy that runs every 30 mins, and I added this line to it: ‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍‍
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Hi all,

I need to recall from on-prem COS a folder with subfolders and files, approximately 4600 files making up 656G.
We have a policy that runs every 30 mins, and I added this line to it:

RULE 'migrate_iac-workspace_Chem-labs' MIGRATE FROM POOl 'migrate' TO POOL 'data' WHERE PATH_NAME LIKE '/gpfs/nhmfsa/bulk/share/workspace/iac-workspace/Chem_Labs/%'

Migrate is an external pool
RULE EXTERNAL POOL 'migrate' EXEC '/usr/lpp/mmfs/bin/mmcloudgateway files' OPTS '-F' ESCAPE '% -'

And data is the default placement pool
RULE 'Placement' SET POOL 'data'

When it runs it identifies matching files:
Rule#     Hit_Cnt               KB_Hit                 Chosen                KB_Chosen         KB_Ill    Rule
13          4846                     2491152              4846                     2491152              7056      RULE      'migrate_iac-workspace_Chem-labs'       MIGRATE  FROM      POOL  'migrate'  TO  POOL  'data'     WHERE(.)

I can’t find what ‘KB_ Ill’ means but nothing is migrating.

Migrations in other policies work, but this is a ‘recall’ policy.
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It suggests it should be invoked as a recall.

Any ideas?

Kindest regards,
Paul

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