[gpfsug-discuss] CES and Directory list populating very slowly

Marc A Kaplan makaplan at us.ibm.com
Tue May 9 19:58:22 BST 2017


If you haven't already, measure the time directly on the CES node command 
line skipping Windows and Samba overheads:

time ls -l /path 

or 

time ls -lR /path

Depending which you're interested in.





From:   "Sven Oehme" <oehmes at us.ibm.com>
To:     gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org>
Date:   05/09/2017 01:01 PM
Subject:        Re: [gpfsug-discuss] CES and Directory list populating 
very slowly
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ESS nodes have cache, but what matters most for this type of workloads is 
to have a very large metadata cache, this resides on the CES node for 
SMB/NFS workloads. so if you know that your client will use this 300k 
directory a lot you want to have a very large maxfilestocache setting on 
this nodes. alternative solution is to install a LROC device and configure 
a larger statcache, this helps especially if you have multiple larger 
directories and want to cache as many as possible from all of them.
make sure you have enough tokenmanager and memory on them if you have 
multiple CES nodes and they all will have high settings. 

sven

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Mark Bush ---05/09/2017 05:25:39 PM---I have a customer who is struggling 
(they already have a PMR open and it’s being actively worked on

From: Mark Bush <Mark.Bush at siriuscom.com>
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org>
Date: 05/09/2017 05:25 PM
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] CES and Directory list populating very slowly
Sent by: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at spectrumscale.org



I have a customer who is struggling (they already have a PMR open and it’s 
being actively worked on now). I’m simply seeking understanding of 
potential places to look. They have an ESS with a few CES nodes in front. 
Clients connect via SMB to the CES nodes. One fileset has about 300k 
smallish files in it and when the client opens a windows browser it takes 
around 30mins to finish populating the files in this SMB share. 

Here’s where my confusion is. When a client connects to a CES node this is 
all the job of the CES and it’s protocol services to handle, so in this 
case CTDB/Samba. 
But the flow of this is where maybe I’m a little fuzzy. Obviously the CES 
nodes act as clients to the NSD (IO/nodes in ESS land) servers. So, the 
data really doesn’t exist on the protocol node but passes things off to 
the NSD server for regular IO processing. Does the CES node do some type 
of caching? I’ve heard talk of LROC on CES nodes potentially but I’m 
curious if all of this is already being stored in the pagepool?

What could cause a mostly metadata related simple directory lookup take 
what seems to the customer a long time for a couple hundred thousand 
files?


Mark
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