[gpfsug-discuss] replication and no failure groups

Jan-Frode Myklebust janfrode at tanso.net
Mon Jan 9 22:24:45 GMT 2017


Yaron, doesn't "-1" make each of these disk an independent failure group?

>From 'man mmcrnsd':

"The default is -1, which indicates this disk has no point of failure in
common with any other disk."


  -jf


man. 9. jan. 2017 kl. 21.54 skrev Yaron Daniel <YARD at il.ibm.com>:

> Hi
>
> So - do u able to have GPFS replication
>
> for the MD Failure Groups ?
>
> I can see that u have 3 Failure Groups
>
> for Data -1, 2012,2034 , how many Storage Subsystems you have ?
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> Hi Yaron:
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> This is the filesystem:
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> [root at cl005 net]# mmlsdisk work
> disk         driver
>
> sector     failure holds    holds
>
> storage
> name         type
>
> size       group metadata data  status
>
> availability pool
> ------------ -------- ------ ----------- -------- ----- -------------
> ------------
>
> ------------
> nsd_a_7      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_7      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_7      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_7      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_a_8      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_8      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_8      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_8      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_a_9      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_9      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_9      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_9      nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_a_10     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_10     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_10     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_10     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_a_11     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_11     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_11     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_11     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_a_12     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_b_12     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_c_12     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> nsd_d_12     nsd
>
> 512          -1 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> system
> work_md_pf1_1 nsd         512
>
> 200 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> jbf1z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf2z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf3z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf4z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf5z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf6z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf7z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf8z1       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf1z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf2z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf3z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf4z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf5z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf6z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf7z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf8z2       nsd
>
> 4096        2012 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf1z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf2z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf3z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf4z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf5z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf6z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf7z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf8z3       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf1z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf2z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf3z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf4z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf5z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf6z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf7z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> jbf8z4       nsd
>
> 4096        2034 No
>
> Yes   ready         up
>
> sas_ssd4T
> work_md_pf1_2 nsd         512
>
> 200 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf1_3 nsd         512
>
> 200 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf1_4 nsd         512
>
> 200 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf2_5 nsd         512
>
> 199 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf2_6 nsd         512
>
> 199 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf2_7 nsd         512
>
> 199 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> work_md_pf2_8 nsd         512
>
> 199 Yes      No    ready
>
> up           system
>
>
> [root at cl005 net]# mmlsfs work -R -r -M -m -K
> flag
>
> value
>
> description
> ------------------- ------------------------
> -----------------------------------
>  -R
>
> 2
>
> Maximum number of data replicas
>  -r
>
> 2
>
> Default number of data replicas
>  -M
>
> 2
>
> Maximum number of metadata replicas
>  -m
>
> 2
>
> Default number of metadata replicas
>  -K
>
> whenpossible
>
> Strict replica allocation option
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Yaron Daniel <*YARD at il.ibm.com*
> <YARD at il.ibm.com>>
>
> wrote:
> Hi
>
> 1) Yes in case u have only 1 Failure group - replication will not work.
>
> 2) Do you have 2 Storage Systems ?  When using GPFS replication write
>
> stay the same - but read can be double - since it read from 2 Storage
> systems
>
> Hope this help - what do you try to achive , can you share your env setup
>
> ?
>
>
> Regards
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> All,
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> If I have a filesystem with replication set to 2 and 1 failure group:
>
> 1) I assume replication won't actually happen, correct?
>
> 2) Will this impact performance i.e cut write performance in half even
>
> though it really only keeps 1 copy?
>
> End goal - I would like a single storage pool within the filesystem to
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> be replicated without affecting the performance of all other pools(which
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> only have a single failure group)
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> Thanks,
> Brian Marshall
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