From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep  4 17:27:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:27:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Windows 2008 samples binaries
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C17A3@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all
  To save me setting up a development environment on 2008 server r2, has anyone already compiled these samples?

Specifically /usr/lpp/mmfs/samples/net/nsdperf.C

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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 16:50:12 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:50:12 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <8C1AD13C-E001-43EF-BD57-C7CB8646380B@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 17:39:05 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:39:05 -0600
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry


----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer



Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 18:03:15 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:03:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>

Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry
------------------------------

*  From: *Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
*  Sent: *09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
*  To: *gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
*  Subject: *[gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' -
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 19:09:57 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:09:57 -0700
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>

Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer 
where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never 
checks a file on open, for example./ 

Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing 
Desk: (503) 578-5630 
Cell: (503) 880-5833 
sfadden at us.ibm.com
http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs



From:
Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
To:
gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>, 
Date:
09/05/2012 10:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Sent by:
gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org



Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than 
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the 
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry

  From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
  Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
  To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
  Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - 
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep  6 09:39:18 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:39:18 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
	<OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3BDE47FE-8273-4A18-BD3A-4D3BF288F4FC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Great news! Thanks Scott!

Cheers,
Barry



On 5 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never checks a file on open, for example./ 
> 
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing 
> Desk: (503) 578-5630  
> Cell: (503) 880-5833  
> sfadden at us.ibm.com
> http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs 
> 
> 
> From:	Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
> To:	gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>,
> Date:	09/05/2012 10:05 AM
> Subject:	Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> Sent by:	gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goooooood - does that include writes from home? 
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:
> This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing
> (503)880-5833
> Sent from my Blackberry
> 
> 
>   From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
>   Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
>   To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>   Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise 
> 
> Regards, 
> Barry Evans 
> Technical Director 
> CandIT Media UK Ltd 
> +44 7500 667 671 
> bevans at canditmedia.co.uk 
> 
> 
> 
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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:42:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:42:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:49:45 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:49:45 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5051F289.9010400@ed.ac.uk>

On 13/09/12 15:42, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello there
>
>    Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?
>

I do (University of Edinburgh)


> If you do:
>
> 1)Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>

Linux - although we're about to trial Windows server backups (not GPFS).

> 2)Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>

Not yet - but about to trial this too! We're thinking of re-doing how we 
do disaster recovery, along the lines of rsync'ing a candidate list to 
an off-site HSM filesystem (as opposed to "dsmc incr")


> 3)Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a
> filelist generated by GPFS?

GPFS file list - not using mmbackup though, our own custom stuff instead 
(mmbackup wasn't stable at our scale when we started doing this).

>
> If you do not use TSM:
>
> 4)What backup / HSM software do you use?
>

We used to use EMC Networker. It couldn't keep up, so we jumped ship.

> Thanks
>
> Jez
>
> ---
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>
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>
> Rushes
>
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> Jez Tucker
>
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>
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From ajt1 at noc.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 16:11:09 2012
From: ajt1 at noc.ac.uk (Tyler, Amanda J.)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:11:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <D7ED5D2780D3334299EDDBC1F66E96E402D9060E9C@nerckwmb1.ad.nerc.ac.uk>

Reply from National Oceanography Centre Southampton

Yes we use TSM

1) TSM server runs AIX but gpfs nodes are linux

2) Not yet but there is a central NERC project looking into it.
We used Tivoli HSM for several years on a solaris server but stopped about 6 years ago because it had multiple performance issues.

3) We use TSM in the traditional mode for file backup/ archive.

Amanda Tyler


From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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DDI: +44 (0) 207 851 6276
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From Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com  Thu Sep 13 16:19:30 2012
From: Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com (McLaughlin, Sandra M)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:19:30 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <1332E4641C13494B98BB1E3DB32CC8150AF8CE09@ukaprdembx02.rd.astrazeneca.net>

Just ordered TSM, to integrate with a new GPFS setup. Linux only. Not
using HSM yet, possibly later. No idea about mode, sorry, as
installation is not yet complete, or completely planned.

 

Up to now we have used EMC Networker. 

 

Sandra.

 

From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

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Senior Sysadmin

Rushes

 

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)

 

 

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Senior Sysadmin 

Rushes 

DDI: +44 (0) 207 851 6276 

http://www.rushes.co.uk <http://www.rushes.co.uk/>  

 


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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 19:50:19 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:50:19 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.

We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"

where file nsdchange has the following input

<nsdname> dmm

Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.

Any clues on this would be great

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From a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:23:39 2012
From: a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk (Aslam Abdul Ghumra)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:23:39 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <F0658F4E7C8A084AB7E7895A257838CC520B4F2AB9@ADMMBX5.adf.bham.ac.uk>

Hi ( we do at Birmingham )


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>>>>>>	We use TSM on Linux. 
2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>>>>>>	We don't use HSM currently on our HPC system
3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?
>>>>>>	We've had issues with mmbackup in v3.2, so use TSM in a traditional mode.

However we are currently upgrading TSM from our v5.5 to v6.3 and GPFS from v3.3 to v3.5 and onto new hardware.

Aslam Ghumra
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From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:38:15 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:38:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbLO1-cXWJ30dk8jctvb9KabahcB-uubcM-VLcAz-JcrQ@mail.gmail.com>

So a reply on this.

We bit the bullet and went ahead, and it worked a treat, literally
took 5 seconds to do.

On another note, something that would be useful for others. We all
know that without rdac the nsd node would moan for ~15 mins depending
the number of disks with I/O errors for any machines that are fibre
attached. One way to supress that would be to add the following kernel
parameter

rdloaddriver=scsi_dh_rdac

This saved us many hours on installing these machines. I hope it will
be useful for others.

For the purpose of google, so that they can find the info easily,
adding an excerpt of the error message below

sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdal, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddc, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddk, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhb, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhf, sector 128
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdex, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhd, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdgz, sector 64

--
Arif Ali

catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


On 13 September 2012 19:50, Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>treat
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
>
> Any clues on this would be great
>
> --
> Arif Ali
>
> catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


From sdenham at us.ibm.com  Fri Sep 14 14:17:59 2012
From: sdenham at us.ibm.com (Scott Denham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:17:59 -0500
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>


gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org wrote on 09/14/2012 06:00:03 AM:


> From: Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk>

> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
type to be changed to dmm.
> >treat
> > We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=
$PWD/nsdchange"
> >
> > where file nsdchange has the following input
> >
> > <nsdname> dmm
> >
> > Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> > change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
> >
> > Any clues on this would be great

No impact on the contents of the disks, but you do have to have the file
system unmounted everywhere to do this - all of the nodes must be using the
same disk mode type.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 15:04:26 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:04:26 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Big NAS deployments
In-Reply-To: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
	<OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <5053396A.7010708@ed.ac.uk>

Hi all,

We're planning a big NAS deployment at Edinburgh Uni, based on GPFS 
(with CTDB + Samba + NFS). We're very keen to hear about anyone who has 
done GPFS-based NAS on a scale of the order of ~5000 users (or higher) - 
but it would also be very helpful to just do a straw poll to find out 
who is doing this kind of stuff now.

So - I have two questions:

  1. Are you currently offering desktop-user NAS services from GPFS? If 
so - on what scale, and with what technologies?

  2. Have you deployed, or know of any deployments, GPFS-based NAS 
services on the scale of ~5000+ users?

And, while I'm here - has anyone put AFM (Active File Manager) into 
production yet? Care to share your story if you have?

Cheers,
Orlando.



-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:05:24 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:05:24 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
	appreciated
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all

  Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.

I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
[Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].

Please have a read of the presentations.

IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.

For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.

If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.

Regards,

    Jez

p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
---
Jez Tucker 
Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:41:57 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
 appreciated
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5061B4A5.3010603@ed.ac.uk>

On 25/09/12 14:05, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello all
>
>    Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.
>
> I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
> [Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].
>
> Please have a read of the presentations.
>
> IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.
>
> For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
> It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.
>
> If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.
>
> Regards,
>
>      Jez
>
> p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
> ---

Thanks for the great meeting Jez, and Claire et al at OCF.

On feature requests, I think one desirable feature request discussed at 
the meeting was for "better" performance monitoring tools.

A quick think through the things on my plate which would be eased with 
new/changed features in GPFS led me to this wishlist:

  - ability to change the designated NSD servers for an NSD without 
unmounting the filesystem everywhere

  - expansion of the AFM toolchain, including the following to assist 
with migration of data between filesystems:
    - ability to set a pre-existing fileset as a "cache" of an empty 
'home' fileset with AFM, allowing for a push of the data from the 
"cache" fileset/filesystem to the "home" target fileset/filesystem as a 
data migration strategy
    - ability to remove an AFM relationship between filesets, preserving 
data in the 'cache' fileset (and making it, independently, a 'live' fileset)
    - ability to "flip" the 'home'<->'cache' relationship, resulting in 
a flush from the new 'cache' fileset to the new 'home' fileset

  - better documentation (and, indeed, automation/automagic) on making 
best use of available memory within NSD servers

  - read caching of data blocks within an NSD server's memory (when 
acting in "server" mode in a multi-cluster environment where the client 
nodes do not have direct block access to the disks)

  - "hot file" identification tools/data for policy based HSM migration

  - some easy and non-invasive method for logging file and folder 
deletions (for the purposes of expiring backup data without using a 
separate database of files, in my case)

  - better licensing model (dare I say it - capacity based?)


I'd love to be able to change the blocksize on an existing filesystem 
too, but I imagine that's not possible.


--
Orlando



-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep 27 18:49:13 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:49:13 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Samba 3.6 and the Windows 'O' attribtute
Message-ID: <520271A3-9C81-45AB-AD55-8CD3708C5730@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello,

Having a little problem with samba at the moment with the gpfs vfs module loaded. In *every* version of enterprise samba 3.6, when browsing folders in windows explorer a good chunk of the files will come back incorrectly with the 'O' attribute (which is offline - you see this quite often when files have been migrated by HSM off to tape, but there isn't any HSM here). 

I have also been through every version of GPFS from 3.4.0-10 up to 3.5.0-3 to make sure it's not actually GPFS causing this. With each version, the behaviour is perfect in enterprise samba 3.5.18.

if you prevent the gpfs vfs module from loading in samba, the problem also disappears.

Anyone else run into this?

Cheers,
Barry




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:03:07 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:03:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
Message-ID: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, 
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From pete at realisestudio.com  Fri Sep 28 11:12:50 2012
From: pete at realisestudio.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:12:50 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>

Is your rsync patched for ACLs?
-- 

On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>
> Sample test:
>
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:group@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>             --
>    Dr Orlando Richards
>   Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>        Unix Section
>     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
> with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss



-- 
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DevOp/System Administrator
Realise Studio
12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QB
T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644

realisestudio.com


From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:28:23 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:23 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.

sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>            --
>   Dr Orlando Richards
>  Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>       Unix Section
>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:37:09 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
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Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:

http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.
> 
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Barry
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> 
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> 
>> Sample test:
>> 
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> 
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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From viccornell at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 11:42:07 2012
From: viccornell at gmail.com (Vic Cornell)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:42:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
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On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:37, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it
and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:
http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two
filesystems, same machine.
sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
(X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:05:29 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:05:29 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50658479.2020504@ed.ac.uk>



On 28/09/12 11:12, Pete Smith wrote:
> Is your rsync patched for ACLs?

Not by me - though I did find this patch from IBM back in 2008, but I 
can't get it to build against any version 3.0.x of rsync (I didn't go 
further back), and there was no follow up on the list that I can see 
(apart from one immediate response attempting to initiate dialogue).

   http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2008-October/021963.html

I'm currently entertaining doing:

dsmc incr -> dsmc restore!



> -- On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards
> <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
>> >while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> >
>> >I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> >
>> >Sample test:
>> >
>> ># mkdir test
>> ># mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> ># mmgetacl test
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> >  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> ># rsync -av test/ test2/
>> >[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >special:owner@:---c:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:group@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:everyone@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >             --
>> >    Dr Orlando Richards
>> >   Information Services
>> >IT Infrastructure Division
>> >        Unix Section
>> >     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> >
>> >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
>> >with registration number SC005336.
>> >_______________________________________________
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>> >http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
> -- Pete Smith DevOp/System Administrator Realise Studio 12/13 Poland
> Street, London W1F 8QB T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644 realisestudio.com
> _______________________________________________ gpfsug-discuss mailing
> list gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
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-- 
             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:06:27 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:27 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> two filesystems, same machine.
>
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> another? Not ideal.

I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)

Still looking for something sane.

Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!

>
> Cheers,
> Barry
>
>
>
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk
> <mailto:orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs
>> filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>>
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>>
>> Sample test:
>>
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org <mailto:gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>


-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From jonathan at buzzard.me.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:30:11 2012
From: jonathan at buzzard.me.uk (Jonathan Buzzard)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:30:11 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> > Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> > two filesystems, same machine.
> >
> > sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> > another? Not ideal.
> 
> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> 

When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
resultant ACL's were still borked.

> Still looking for something sane.
> 

Would AFM not do the trick?

> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> 

What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.

JAB.

-- 
Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk
Fife, United Kingdom.



From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 13:56:19 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:56:19 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD4C9@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Could you not use AFM?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 11:03
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>   (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:10:47 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:10:47 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>
>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>> another? Not ideal.
>>
>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>
>
> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
> not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
> robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
> xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
> resultant ACL's were still borked.
>
>> Still looking for something sane.
>>
>
> Would AFM not do the trick?
>
>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>
>
> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
> modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>

Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday 
afternoon coding challenge, here's the problem:

I'm trying to apply this patch:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj

to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:

http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz

So I do:
mkdir -p src/rsync
cd src/rsync
wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
wget 
http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj
tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
cd rsync-3.0.6
patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff

./configure --prefix=/tmp
make


Error message is:

$ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c 
-o gpfs.o
In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
                  from gpfs.c:20:
proto.h:111:28: warning: ?struct rsync_gpfs_attr? declared inside 
parameter list [enabled by default]
proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or 
declaration, which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for ?gpfs_free_attr?
proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of ?gpfs_free_attr? was here
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_sxp?:
gpfs.c:142:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:144:20: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:145:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:146:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_cache_attr?:
gpfs.c:382:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:398:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:519:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:587:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:595:37: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:597:21: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:598:7: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1




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             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:46:00 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:00 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
Grabbing rsync latest git.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> >> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> >>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> >>> two filesystems, same machine.
> >>>
> >>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> >>> another? Not ideal.
> >>
> >> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> >>
> >
> > When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
> > where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
> > etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
> > I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
> > server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
> >
> >> Still looking for something sane.
> >>
> >
> > Would AFM not do the trick?
> >
> >> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> >>
> >
> > What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> > attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
> > a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
> >
> 
> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
> coding challenge, here's the problem:
> 
> I'm trying to apply this patch:
> 
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> 
> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
> 
> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> 
> So I do:
> mkdir -p src/rsync
> cd src/rsync
> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> wget
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> cd rsync-3.0.6
> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
> make
> 
> 
> Error message is:
> 
> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>                   from gpfs.c:20:
> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
> list [enabled by default]
> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
> each function it appears in
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
> registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 16:10:05 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:10:05 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
	<39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5065BDCD.1020902@ed.ac.uk>

Some progress at my end - installing libacl1-dev on my ubuntu dev box 
has helped a bit, as has setting:
CFLAGS=-g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W
in the Makefile built by configure.

New errors though:

gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W 
-c gpfs.c -o gpfs.o
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1



On 28/09/12 15:46, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
> Grabbing rsync latest git.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
>> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
>> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
>> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
>>
>> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>>>> another? Not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
>>> where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
>>> etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
>>> I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
>>> server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
>>>
>>>> Still looking for something sane.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would AFM not do the trick?
>>>
>>>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
>>> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
>>> a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>>>
>>
>> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
>> coding challenge, here's the problem:
>>
>> I'm trying to apply this patch:
>>
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>>
>> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
>>
>> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>>
>> So I do:
>> mkdir -p src/rsync
>> cd src/rsync
>> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> wget
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> cd rsync-3.0.6
>> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
>>
>> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
>> make
>>
>>
>> Error message is:
>>
>> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
>> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>>                    from gpfs.c:20:
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
>> list [enabled by default]
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
>> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
>> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
>> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
>> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
>> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
>> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
>> each function it appears in
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
>> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
>> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
>> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
>> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
>> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
>> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
>> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>               --
>>      Dr Orlando Richards
>>     Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>          Unix Section
>>       Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
>> registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep  4 17:27:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:27:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Windows 2008 samples binaries
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C17A3@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all
  To save me setting up a development environment on 2008 server r2, has anyone already compiled these samples?

Specifically /usr/lpp/mmfs/samples/net/nsdperf.C

---
Jez Tucker
Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 16:50:12 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:50:12 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <8C1AD13C-E001-43EF-BD57-C7CB8646380B@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 17:39:05 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:39:05 -0600
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry


----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer



Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 18:03:15 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:03:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>

Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry
------------------------------

*  From: *Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
*  Sent: *09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
*  To: *gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
*  Subject: *[gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' -
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 19:09:57 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:09:57 -0700
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
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	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>

Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer 
where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never 
checks a file on open, for example./ 

Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing 
Desk: (503) 578-5630 
Cell: (503) 880-5833 
sfadden at us.ibm.com
http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs



From:
Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
To:
gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>, 
Date:
09/05/2012 10:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Sent by:
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Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than 
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the 
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry

  From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
  Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
  To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
  Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - 
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep  6 09:39:18 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:39:18 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
	<OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3BDE47FE-8273-4A18-BD3A-4D3BF288F4FC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Great news! Thanks Scott!

Cheers,
Barry



On 5 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never checks a file on open, for example./ 
> 
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing 
> Desk: (503) 578-5630  
> Cell: (503) 880-5833  
> sfadden at us.ibm.com
> http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs 
> 
> 
> From:	Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
> To:	gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>,
> Date:	09/05/2012 10:05 AM
> Subject:	Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> Sent by:	gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goooooood - does that include writes from home? 
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:
> This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing
> (503)880-5833
> Sent from my Blackberry
> 
> 
>   From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
>   Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
>   To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>   Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise 
> 
> Regards, 
> Barry Evans 
> Technical Director 
> CandIT Media UK Ltd 
> +44 7500 667 671 
> bevans at canditmedia.co.uk 
> 
> 
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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:42:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:42:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:49:45 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:49:45 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5051F289.9010400@ed.ac.uk>

On 13/09/12 15:42, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello there
>
>    Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?
>

I do (University of Edinburgh)


> If you do:
>
> 1)Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>

Linux - although we're about to trial Windows server backups (not GPFS).

> 2)Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>

Not yet - but about to trial this too! We're thinking of re-doing how we 
do disaster recovery, along the lines of rsync'ing a candidate list to 
an off-site HSM filesystem (as opposed to "dsmc incr")


> 3)Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a
> filelist generated by GPFS?

GPFS file list - not using mmbackup though, our own custom stuff instead 
(mmbackup wasn't stable at our scale when we started doing this).

>
> If you do not use TSM:
>
> 4)What backup / HSM software do you use?
>

We used to use EMC Networker. It couldn't keep up, so we jumped ship.

> Thanks
>
> Jez
>
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>
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From ajt1 at noc.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 16:11:09 2012
From: ajt1 at noc.ac.uk (Tyler, Amanda J.)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:11:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <D7ED5D2780D3334299EDDBC1F66E96E402D9060E9C@nerckwmb1.ad.nerc.ac.uk>

Reply from National Oceanography Centre Southampton

Yes we use TSM

1) TSM server runs AIX but gpfs nodes are linux

2) Not yet but there is a central NERC project looking into it.
We used Tivoli HSM for several years on a solaris server but stopped about 6 years ago because it had multiple performance issues.

3) We use TSM in the traditional mode for file backup/ archive.

Amanda Tyler


From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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From Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com  Thu Sep 13 16:19:30 2012
From: Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com (McLaughlin, Sandra M)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:19:30 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <1332E4641C13494B98BB1E3DB32CC8150AF8CE09@ukaprdembx02.rd.astrazeneca.net>

Just ordered TSM, to integrate with a new GPFS setup. Linux only. Not
using HSM yet, possibly later. No idea about mode, sorry, as
installation is not yet complete, or completely planned.

 

Up to now we have used EMC Networker. 

 

Sandra.

 

From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

---

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Senior Sysadmin

Rushes

 

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)

 

 

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Rushes 

DDI: +44 (0) 207 851 6276 

http://www.rushes.co.uk <http://www.rushes.co.uk/>  

 


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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 19:50:19 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:50:19 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.

We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"

where file nsdchange has the following input

<nsdname> dmm

Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.

Any clues on this would be great

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From a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:23:39 2012
From: a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk (Aslam Abdul Ghumra)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:23:39 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <F0658F4E7C8A084AB7E7895A257838CC520B4F2AB9@ADMMBX5.adf.bham.ac.uk>

Hi ( we do at Birmingham )


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>>>>>>	We use TSM on Linux. 
2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>>>>>>	We don't use HSM currently on our HPC system
3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?
>>>>>>	We've had issues with mmbackup in v3.2, so use TSM in a traditional mode.

However we are currently upgrading TSM from our v5.5 to v6.3 and GPFS from v3.3 to v3.5 and onto new hardware.

Aslam Ghumra
C&IT (Unix & Storage) Specialist
____________________________
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From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

---

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Senior Sysadmin

Rushes

 

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)

 

 

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Senior Sysadmin 

Rushes 

DDI: +44 (0) 207 851 6276 

http://www.rushes.co.uk <http://www.rushes.co.uk/>  

 


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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:38:15 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:38:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbLO1-cXWJ30dk8jctvb9KabahcB-uubcM-VLcAz-JcrQ@mail.gmail.com>

So a reply on this.

We bit the bullet and went ahead, and it worked a treat, literally
took 5 seconds to do.

On another note, something that would be useful for others. We all
know that without rdac the nsd node would moan for ~15 mins depending
the number of disks with I/O errors for any machines that are fibre
attached. One way to supress that would be to add the following kernel
parameter

rdloaddriver=scsi_dh_rdac

This saved us many hours on installing these machines. I hope it will
be useful for others.

For the purpose of google, so that they can find the info easily,
adding an excerpt of the error message below

sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdal, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddc, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddk, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhb, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhf, sector 128
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdex, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhd, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdgz, sector 64

--
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On 13 September 2012 19:50, Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>treat
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
>
> Any clues on this would be great
>
> --
> Arif Ali
>
> catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


From sdenham at us.ibm.com  Fri Sep 14 14:17:59 2012
From: sdenham at us.ibm.com (Scott Denham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:17:59 -0500
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>


gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org wrote on 09/14/2012 06:00:03 AM:


> From: Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk>

> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
type to be changed to dmm.
> >treat
> > We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=
$PWD/nsdchange"
> >
> > where file nsdchange has the following input
> >
> > <nsdname> dmm
> >
> > Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> > change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
> >
> > Any clues on this would be great

No impact on the contents of the disks, but you do have to have the file
system unmounted everywhere to do this - all of the nodes must be using the
same disk mode type.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 15:04:26 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:04:26 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Big NAS deployments
In-Reply-To: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
	<OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <5053396A.7010708@ed.ac.uk>

Hi all,

We're planning a big NAS deployment at Edinburgh Uni, based on GPFS 
(with CTDB + Samba + NFS). We're very keen to hear about anyone who has 
done GPFS-based NAS on a scale of the order of ~5000 users (or higher) - 
but it would also be very helpful to just do a straw poll to find out 
who is doing this kind of stuff now.

So - I have two questions:

  1. Are you currently offering desktop-user NAS services from GPFS? If 
so - on what scale, and with what technologies?

  2. Have you deployed, or know of any deployments, GPFS-based NAS 
services on the scale of ~5000+ users?

And, while I'm here - has anyone put AFM (Active File Manager) into 
production yet? Care to share your story if you have?

Cheers,
Orlando.



-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:05:24 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:05:24 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
	appreciated
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all

  Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.

I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
[Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].

Please have a read of the presentations.

IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.

For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.

If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.

Regards,

    Jez

p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
---
Jez Tucker 
Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:41:57 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
 appreciated
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5061B4A5.3010603@ed.ac.uk>

On 25/09/12 14:05, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello all
>
>    Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.
>
> I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
> [Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].
>
> Please have a read of the presentations.
>
> IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.
>
> For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
> It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.
>
> If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.
>
> Regards,
>
>      Jez
>
> p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
> ---

Thanks for the great meeting Jez, and Claire et al at OCF.

On feature requests, I think one desirable feature request discussed at 
the meeting was for "better" performance monitoring tools.

A quick think through the things on my plate which would be eased with 
new/changed features in GPFS led me to this wishlist:

  - ability to change the designated NSD servers for an NSD without 
unmounting the filesystem everywhere

  - expansion of the AFM toolchain, including the following to assist 
with migration of data between filesystems:
    - ability to set a pre-existing fileset as a "cache" of an empty 
'home' fileset with AFM, allowing for a push of the data from the 
"cache" fileset/filesystem to the "home" target fileset/filesystem as a 
data migration strategy
    - ability to remove an AFM relationship between filesets, preserving 
data in the 'cache' fileset (and making it, independently, a 'live' fileset)
    - ability to "flip" the 'home'<->'cache' relationship, resulting in 
a flush from the new 'cache' fileset to the new 'home' fileset

  - better documentation (and, indeed, automation/automagic) on making 
best use of available memory within NSD servers

  - read caching of data blocks within an NSD server's memory (when 
acting in "server" mode in a multi-cluster environment where the client 
nodes do not have direct block access to the disks)

  - "hot file" identification tools/data for policy based HSM migration

  - some easy and non-invasive method for logging file and folder 
deletions (for the purposes of expiring backup data without using a 
separate database of files, in my case)

  - better licensing model (dare I say it - capacity based?)


I'd love to be able to change the blocksize on an existing filesystem 
too, but I imagine that's not possible.


--
Orlando



-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep 27 18:49:13 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:49:13 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Samba 3.6 and the Windows 'O' attribtute
Message-ID: <520271A3-9C81-45AB-AD55-8CD3708C5730@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello,

Having a little problem with samba at the moment with the gpfs vfs module loaded. In *every* version of enterprise samba 3.6, when browsing folders in windows explorer a good chunk of the files will come back incorrectly with the 'O' attribute (which is offline - you see this quite often when files have been migrated by HSM off to tape, but there isn't any HSM here). 

I have also been through every version of GPFS from 3.4.0-10 up to 3.5.0-3 to make sure it's not actually GPFS causing this. With each version, the behaviour is perfect in enterprise samba 3.5.18.

if you prevent the gpfs vfs module from loading in samba, the problem also disappears.

Anyone else run into this?

Cheers,
Barry




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:03:07 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:03:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
Message-ID: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, 
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From pete at realisestudio.com  Fri Sep 28 11:12:50 2012
From: pete at realisestudio.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:12:50 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>

Is your rsync patched for ACLs?
-- 

On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>
> Sample test:
>
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:group@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>             --
>    Dr Orlando Richards
>   Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>        Unix Section
>     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
> with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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DevOp/System Administrator
Realise Studio
12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QB
T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644

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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:28:23 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:23 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.

sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>            --
>   Dr Orlando Richards
>  Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>       Unix Section
>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:37:09 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:

http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.
> 
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Barry
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> 
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> 
>> Sample test:
>> 
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> 
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
> 

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From viccornell at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 11:42:07 2012
From: viccornell at gmail.com (Vic Cornell)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:42:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <-8890182583230016147@unknownmsgid>

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http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/star-acl.html

Kind Regards,

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On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:37, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it
and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:
http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two
filesystems, same machine.
sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
(X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:05:29 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:05:29 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50658479.2020504@ed.ac.uk>



On 28/09/12 11:12, Pete Smith wrote:
> Is your rsync patched for ACLs?

Not by me - though I did find this patch from IBM back in 2008, but I 
can't get it to build against any version 3.0.x of rsync (I didn't go 
further back), and there was no follow up on the list that I can see 
(apart from one immediate response attempting to initiate dialogue).

   http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2008-October/021963.html

I'm currently entertaining doing:

dsmc incr -> dsmc restore!



> -- On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards
> <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
>> >while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> >
>> >I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> >
>> >Sample test:
>> >
>> ># mkdir test
>> ># mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> ># mmgetacl test
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> >  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> ># rsync -av test/ test2/
>> >[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >special:owner@:---c:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:group@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:everyone@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >             --
>> >    Dr Orlando Richards
>> >   Information Services
>> >IT Infrastructure Division
>> >        Unix Section
>> >     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> >
>> >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
>> >with registration number SC005336.
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>
>
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> Street, London W1F 8QB T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644 realisestudio.com
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:06:27 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:27 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> two filesystems, same machine.
>
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> another? Not ideal.

I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)

Still looking for something sane.

Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!

>
> Cheers,
> Barry
>
>
>
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk
> <mailto:orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs
>> filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>>
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>>
>> Sample test:
>>
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org <mailto:gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
>
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>


-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From jonathan at buzzard.me.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:30:11 2012
From: jonathan at buzzard.me.uk (Jonathan Buzzard)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:30:11 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> > Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> > two filesystems, same machine.
> >
> > sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> > another? Not ideal.
> 
> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> 

When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
resultant ACL's were still borked.

> Still looking for something sane.
> 

Would AFM not do the trick?

> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> 

What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.

JAB.

-- 
Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk
Fife, United Kingdom.



From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 13:56:19 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:56:19 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD4C9@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Could you not use AFM?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 11:03
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>   (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:10:47 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:10:47 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>
>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>> another? Not ideal.
>>
>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>
>
> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
> not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
> robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
> xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
> resultant ACL's were still borked.
>
>> Still looking for something sane.
>>
>
> Would AFM not do the trick?
>
>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>
>
> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
> modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>

Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday 
afternoon coding challenge, here's the problem:

I'm trying to apply this patch:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj

to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:

http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz

So I do:
mkdir -p src/rsync
cd src/rsync
wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
wget 
http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj
tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
cd rsync-3.0.6
patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff

./configure --prefix=/tmp
make


Error message is:

$ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c 
-o gpfs.o
In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
                  from gpfs.c:20:
proto.h:111:28: warning: ?struct rsync_gpfs_attr? declared inside 
parameter list [enabled by default]
proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or 
declaration, which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for ?gpfs_free_attr?
proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of ?gpfs_free_attr? was here
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_sxp?:
gpfs.c:142:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:144:20: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:145:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:146:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_cache_attr?:
gpfs.c:382:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:398:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:519:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:587:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:595:37: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:597:21: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:598:7: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1




-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:46:00 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:00 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
Grabbing rsync latest git.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> >> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> >>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> >>> two filesystems, same machine.
> >>>
> >>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> >>> another? Not ideal.
> >>
> >> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> >>
> >
> > When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
> > where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
> > etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
> > I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
> > server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
> >
> >> Still looking for something sane.
> >>
> >
> > Would AFM not do the trick?
> >
> >> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> >>
> >
> > What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> > attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
> > a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
> >
> 
> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
> coding challenge, here's the problem:
> 
> I'm trying to apply this patch:
> 
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> 
> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
> 
> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> 
> So I do:
> mkdir -p src/rsync
> cd src/rsync
> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> wget
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> cd rsync-3.0.6
> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
> make
> 
> 
> Error message is:
> 
> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>                   from gpfs.c:20:
> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
> list [enabled by default]
> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
> each function it appears in
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
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> registration number SC005336.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 16:10:05 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:10:05 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
	<39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5065BDCD.1020902@ed.ac.uk>

Some progress at my end - installing libacl1-dev on my ubuntu dev box 
has helped a bit, as has setting:
CFLAGS=-g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W
in the Makefile built by configure.

New errors though:

gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W 
-c gpfs.c -o gpfs.o
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1



On 28/09/12 15:46, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
> Grabbing rsync latest git.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
>> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
>> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
>> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
>>
>> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>>>> another? Not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
>>> where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
>>> etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
>>> I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
>>> server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
>>>
>>>> Still looking for something sane.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would AFM not do the trick?
>>>
>>>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
>>> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
>>> a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>>>
>>
>> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
>> coding challenge, here's the problem:
>>
>> I'm trying to apply this patch:
>>
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>>
>> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
>>
>> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>>
>> So I do:
>> mkdir -p src/rsync
>> cd src/rsync
>> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> wget
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> cd rsync-3.0.6
>> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
>>
>> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
>> make
>>
>>
>> Error message is:
>>
>> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
>> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>>                    from gpfs.c:20:
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
>> list [enabled by default]
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
>> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
>> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
>> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
>> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
>> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
>> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
>> each function it appears in
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
>> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
>> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
>> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
>> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
>> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
>> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
>> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>               --
>>      Dr Orlando Richards
>>     Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>          Unix Section
>>       Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
>> registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep  4 17:27:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:27:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Windows 2008 samples binaries
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C17A3@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all
  To save me setting up a development environment on 2008 server r2, has anyone already compiled these samples?

Specifically /usr/lpp/mmfs/samples/net/nsdperf.C

---
Jez Tucker
Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 16:50:12 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:50:12 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <8C1AD13C-E001-43EF-BD57-C7CB8646380B@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 17:39:05 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:39:05 -0600
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry


----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer



Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 18:03:15 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:03:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>

Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry
------------------------------

*  From: *Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
*  Sent: *09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
*  To: *gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
*  Subject: *[gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' -
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 19:09:57 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:09:57 -0700
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>

Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer 
where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never 
checks a file on open, for example./ 

Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing 
Desk: (503) 578-5630 
Cell: (503) 880-5833 
sfadden at us.ibm.com
http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs



From:
Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
To:
gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>, 
Date:
09/05/2012 10:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Sent by:
gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org



Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than 
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the 
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry

  From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
  Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
  To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
  Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - 
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep  6 09:39:18 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:39:18 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
	<OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3BDE47FE-8273-4A18-BD3A-4D3BF288F4FC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Great news! Thanks Scott!

Cheers,
Barry



On 5 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never checks a file on open, for example./ 
> 
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing 
> Desk: (503) 578-5630  
> Cell: (503) 880-5833  
> sfadden at us.ibm.com
> http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs 
> 
> 
> From:	Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
> To:	gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>,
> Date:	09/05/2012 10:05 AM
> Subject:	Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> Sent by:	gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goooooood - does that include writes from home? 
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:
> This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing
> (503)880-5833
> Sent from my Blackberry
> 
> 
>   From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
>   Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
>   To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>   Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise 
> 
> Regards, 
> Barry Evans 
> Technical Director 
> CandIT Media UK Ltd 
> +44 7500 667 671 
> bevans at canditmedia.co.uk 
> 
> 
> 
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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:42:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:42:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
Jez Tucker
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Rushes

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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:49:45 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:49:45 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5051F289.9010400@ed.ac.uk>

On 13/09/12 15:42, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello there
>
>    Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?
>

I do (University of Edinburgh)


> If you do:
>
> 1)Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>

Linux - although we're about to trial Windows server backups (not GPFS).

> 2)Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>

Not yet - but about to trial this too! We're thinking of re-doing how we 
do disaster recovery, along the lines of rsync'ing a candidate list to 
an off-site HSM filesystem (as opposed to "dsmc incr")


> 3)Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a
> filelist generated by GPFS?

GPFS file list - not using mmbackup though, our own custom stuff instead 
(mmbackup wasn't stable at our scale when we started doing this).

>
> If you do not use TSM:
>
> 4)What backup / HSM software do you use?
>

We used to use EMC Networker. It couldn't keep up, so we jumped ship.

> Thanks
>
> Jez
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>
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From ajt1 at noc.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 16:11:09 2012
From: ajt1 at noc.ac.uk (Tyler, Amanda J.)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:11:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
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Reply from National Oceanography Centre Southampton

Yes we use TSM

1) TSM server runs AIX but gpfs nodes are linux

2) Not yet but there is a central NERC project looking into it.
We used Tivoli HSM for several years on a solaris server but stopped about 6 years ago because it had multiple performance issues.

3) We use TSM in the traditional mode for file backup/ archive.

Amanda Tyler


From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
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From Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com  Thu Sep 13 16:19:30 2012
From: Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com (McLaughlin, Sandra M)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:19:30 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <1332E4641C13494B98BB1E3DB32CC8150AF8CE09@ukaprdembx02.rd.astrazeneca.net>

Just ordered TSM, to integrate with a new GPFS setup. Linux only. Not
using HSM yet, possibly later. No idea about mode, sorry, as
installation is not yet complete, or completely planned.

 

Up to now we have used EMC Networker. 

 

Sandra.

 

From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 19:50:19 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:50:19 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.

We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"

where file nsdchange has the following input

<nsdname> dmm

Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.

Any clues on this would be great

--
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From a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:23:39 2012
From: a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk (Aslam Abdul Ghumra)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:23:39 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <F0658F4E7C8A084AB7E7895A257838CC520B4F2AB9@ADMMBX5.adf.bham.ac.uk>

Hi ( we do at Birmingham )


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>>>>>>	We use TSM on Linux. 
2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>>>>>>	We don't use HSM currently on our HPC system
3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?
>>>>>>	We've had issues with mmbackup in v3.2, so use TSM in a traditional mode.

However we are currently upgrading TSM from our v5.5 to v6.3 and GPFS from v3.3 to v3.5 and onto new hardware.

Aslam Ghumra
C&IT (Unix & Storage) Specialist
____________________________
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Birmingham B15 2TT
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From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

---

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Senior Sysadmin

Rushes

 

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)

 

 

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Senior Sysadmin 

Rushes 

DDI: +44 (0) 207 851 6276 

http://www.rushes.co.uk <http://www.rushes.co.uk/>  

 


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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:38:15 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:38:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbLO1-cXWJ30dk8jctvb9KabahcB-uubcM-VLcAz-JcrQ@mail.gmail.com>

So a reply on this.

We bit the bullet and went ahead, and it worked a treat, literally
took 5 seconds to do.

On another note, something that would be useful for others. We all
know that without rdac the nsd node would moan for ~15 mins depending
the number of disks with I/O errors for any machines that are fibre
attached. One way to supress that would be to add the following kernel
parameter

rdloaddriver=scsi_dh_rdac

This saved us many hours on installing these machines. I hope it will
be useful for others.

For the purpose of google, so that they can find the info easily,
adding an excerpt of the error message below

sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdal, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddc, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddk, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhb, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhf, sector 128
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdex, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhd, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdgz, sector 64

--
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catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


On 13 September 2012 19:50, Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>treat
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
>
> Any clues on this would be great
>
> --
> Arif Ali
>
> catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


From sdenham at us.ibm.com  Fri Sep 14 14:17:59 2012
From: sdenham at us.ibm.com (Scott Denham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:17:59 -0500
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>


gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org wrote on 09/14/2012 06:00:03 AM:


> From: Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk>

> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
type to be changed to dmm.
> >treat
> > We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=
$PWD/nsdchange"
> >
> > where file nsdchange has the following input
> >
> > <nsdname> dmm
> >
> > Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> > change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
> >
> > Any clues on this would be great

No impact on the contents of the disks, but you do have to have the file
system unmounted everywhere to do this - all of the nodes must be using the
same disk mode type.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 15:04:26 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:04:26 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Big NAS deployments
In-Reply-To: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
	<OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <5053396A.7010708@ed.ac.uk>

Hi all,

We're planning a big NAS deployment at Edinburgh Uni, based on GPFS 
(with CTDB + Samba + NFS). We're very keen to hear about anyone who has 
done GPFS-based NAS on a scale of the order of ~5000 users (or higher) - 
but it would also be very helpful to just do a straw poll to find out 
who is doing this kind of stuff now.

So - I have two questions:

  1. Are you currently offering desktop-user NAS services from GPFS? If 
so - on what scale, and with what technologies?

  2. Have you deployed, or know of any deployments, GPFS-based NAS 
services on the scale of ~5000+ users?

And, while I'm here - has anyone put AFM (Active File Manager) into 
production yet? Care to share your story if you have?

Cheers,
Orlando.



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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:05:24 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:05:24 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
	appreciated
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all

  Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.

I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
[Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].

Please have a read of the presentations.

IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.

For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.

If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.

Regards,

    Jez

p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:41:57 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
 appreciated
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5061B4A5.3010603@ed.ac.uk>

On 25/09/12 14:05, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello all
>
>    Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.
>
> I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
> [Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].
>
> Please have a read of the presentations.
>
> IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.
>
> For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
> It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.
>
> If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.
>
> Regards,
>
>      Jez
>
> p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
> ---

Thanks for the great meeting Jez, and Claire et al at OCF.

On feature requests, I think one desirable feature request discussed at 
the meeting was for "better" performance monitoring tools.

A quick think through the things on my plate which would be eased with 
new/changed features in GPFS led me to this wishlist:

  - ability to change the designated NSD servers for an NSD without 
unmounting the filesystem everywhere

  - expansion of the AFM toolchain, including the following to assist 
with migration of data between filesystems:
    - ability to set a pre-existing fileset as a "cache" of an empty 
'home' fileset with AFM, allowing for a push of the data from the 
"cache" fileset/filesystem to the "home" target fileset/filesystem as a 
data migration strategy
    - ability to remove an AFM relationship between filesets, preserving 
data in the 'cache' fileset (and making it, independently, a 'live' fileset)
    - ability to "flip" the 'home'<->'cache' relationship, resulting in 
a flush from the new 'cache' fileset to the new 'home' fileset

  - better documentation (and, indeed, automation/automagic) on making 
best use of available memory within NSD servers

  - read caching of data blocks within an NSD server's memory (when 
acting in "server" mode in a multi-cluster environment where the client 
nodes do not have direct block access to the disks)

  - "hot file" identification tools/data for policy based HSM migration

  - some easy and non-invasive method for logging file and folder 
deletions (for the purposes of expiring backup data without using a 
separate database of files, in my case)

  - better licensing model (dare I say it - capacity based?)


I'd love to be able to change the blocksize on an existing filesystem 
too, but I imagine that's not possible.


--
Orlando



-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep 27 18:49:13 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:49:13 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Samba 3.6 and the Windows 'O' attribtute
Message-ID: <520271A3-9C81-45AB-AD55-8CD3708C5730@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello,

Having a little problem with samba at the moment with the gpfs vfs module loaded. In *every* version of enterprise samba 3.6, when browsing folders in windows explorer a good chunk of the files will come back incorrectly with the 'O' attribute (which is offline - you see this quite often when files have been migrated by HSM off to tape, but there isn't any HSM here). 

I have also been through every version of GPFS from 3.4.0-10 up to 3.5.0-3 to make sure it's not actually GPFS causing this. With each version, the behaviour is perfect in enterprise samba 3.5.18.

if you prevent the gpfs vfs module from loading in samba, the problem also disappears.

Anyone else run into this?

Cheers,
Barry




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:03:07 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:03:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
Message-ID: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, 
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From pete at realisestudio.com  Fri Sep 28 11:12:50 2012
From: pete at realisestudio.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:12:50 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>

Is your rsync patched for ACLs?
-- 

On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>
> Sample test:
>
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:group@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>             --
>    Dr Orlando Richards
>   Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>        Unix Section
>     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
> with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss



-- 
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DevOp/System Administrator
Realise Studio
12/13 Poland Street, London W1F 8QB
T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644

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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:28:23 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:23 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.

sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>            --
>   Dr Orlando Richards
>  Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>       Unix Section
>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss

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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:37:09 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:

http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.
> 
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Barry
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> 
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> 
>> Sample test:
>> 
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> 
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
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From viccornell at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 11:42:07 2012
From: viccornell at gmail.com (Vic Cornell)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:42:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <-8890182583230016147@unknownmsgid>

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http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/star-acl.html

Kind Regards,

Vic

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On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:37, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it
and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:
http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two
filesystems, same machine.
sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
(X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





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           --
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 Information Services
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   Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:05:29 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:05:29 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50658479.2020504@ed.ac.uk>



On 28/09/12 11:12, Pete Smith wrote:
> Is your rsync patched for ACLs?

Not by me - though I did find this patch from IBM back in 2008, but I 
can't get it to build against any version 3.0.x of rsync (I didn't go 
further back), and there was no follow up on the list that I can see 
(apart from one immediate response attempting to initiate dialogue).

   http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2008-October/021963.html

I'm currently entertaining doing:

dsmc incr -> dsmc restore!



> -- On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards
> <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
>> >while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> >
>> >I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> >
>> >Sample test:
>> >
>> ># mkdir test
>> ># mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> ># mmgetacl test
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> >  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> ># rsync -av test/ test2/
>> >[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >special:owner@:---c:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:group@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:everyone@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >             --
>> >    Dr Orlando Richards
>> >   Information Services
>> >IT Infrastructure Division
>> >        Unix Section
>> >     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> >
>> >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
>> >with registration number SC005336.
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> >gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> >http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
> -- Pete Smith DevOp/System Administrator Realise Studio 12/13 Poland
> Street, London W1F 8QB T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644 realisestudio.com
> _______________________________________________ gpfsug-discuss mailing
> list gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>


-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:06:27 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:27 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> two filesystems, same machine.
>
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> another? Not ideal.

I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)

Still looking for something sane.

Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!

>
> Cheers,
> Barry
>
>
>
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk
> <mailto:orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs
>> filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>>
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>>
>> Sample test:
>>
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
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>
>
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-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From jonathan at buzzard.me.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:30:11 2012
From: jonathan at buzzard.me.uk (Jonathan Buzzard)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:30:11 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> > Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> > two filesystems, same machine.
> >
> > sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> > another? Not ideal.
> 
> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> 

When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
resultant ACL's were still borked.

> Still looking for something sane.
> 

Would AFM not do the trick?

> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> 

What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.

JAB.

-- 
Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: jonathan (at) buzzard.me.uk
Fife, United Kingdom.



From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 13:56:19 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:56:19 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD4C9@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Could you not use AFM?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 11:03
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>   (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:10:47 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:10:47 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>
>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>> another? Not ideal.
>>
>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>
>
> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
> not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
> robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
> xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
> resultant ACL's were still borked.
>
>> Still looking for something sane.
>>
>
> Would AFM not do the trick?
>
>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>
>
> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
> modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>

Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday 
afternoon coding challenge, here's the problem:

I'm trying to apply this patch:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj

to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:

http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz

So I do:
mkdir -p src/rsync
cd src/rsync
wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
wget 
http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj
tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
cd rsync-3.0.6
patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff

./configure --prefix=/tmp
make


Error message is:

$ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c 
-o gpfs.o
In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
                  from gpfs.c:20:
proto.h:111:28: warning: ?struct rsync_gpfs_attr? declared inside 
parameter list [enabled by default]
proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or 
declaration, which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for ?gpfs_free_attr?
proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of ?gpfs_free_attr? was here
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_sxp?:
gpfs.c:142:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:144:20: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:145:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:146:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_cache_attr?:
gpfs.c:382:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:398:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:519:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:587:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:595:37: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:597:21: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:598:7: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1




-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:46:00 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:00 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
Grabbing rsync latest git.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> >> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> >>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> >>> two filesystems, same machine.
> >>>
> >>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> >>> another? Not ideal.
> >>
> >> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> >>
> >
> > When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
> > where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
> > etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
> > I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
> > server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
> >
> >> Still looking for something sane.
> >>
> >
> > Would AFM not do the trick?
> >
> >> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> >>
> >
> > What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> > attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
> > a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
> >
> 
> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
> coding challenge, here's the problem:
> 
> I'm trying to apply this patch:
> 
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> 
> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
> 
> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> 
> So I do:
> mkdir -p src/rsync
> cd src/rsync
> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> wget
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> cd rsync-3.0.6
> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
> make
> 
> 
> Error message is:
> 
> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>                   from gpfs.c:20:
> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
> list [enabled by default]
> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
> each function it appears in
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
> registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 16:10:05 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:10:05 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
	<39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5065BDCD.1020902@ed.ac.uk>

Some progress at my end - installing libacl1-dev on my ubuntu dev box 
has helped a bit, as has setting:
CFLAGS=-g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W
in the Makefile built by configure.

New errors though:

gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W 
-c gpfs.c -o gpfs.o
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1



On 28/09/12 15:46, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
> Grabbing rsync latest git.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
>> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
>> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
>> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
>>
>> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>>>> another? Not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
>>> where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
>>> etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
>>> I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
>>> server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
>>>
>>>> Still looking for something sane.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would AFM not do the trick?
>>>
>>>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
>>> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
>>> a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>>>
>>
>> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
>> coding challenge, here's the problem:
>>
>> I'm trying to apply this patch:
>>
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>>
>> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
>>
>> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>>
>> So I do:
>> mkdir -p src/rsync
>> cd src/rsync
>> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> wget
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> cd rsync-3.0.6
>> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
>>
>> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
>> make
>>
>>
>> Error message is:
>>
>> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
>> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>>                    from gpfs.c:20:
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
>> list [enabled by default]
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
>> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
>> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
>> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
>> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
>> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
>> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
>> each function it appears in
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
>> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
>> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
>> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
>> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
>> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
>> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
>> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep  4 17:27:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:27:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Windows 2008 samples binaries
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C17A3@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all
  To save me setting up a development environment on 2008 server r2, has anyone already compiled these samples?

Specifically /usr/lpp/mmfs/samples/net/nsdperf.C

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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 16:50:12 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 16:50:12 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <8C1AD13C-E001-43EF-BD57-C7CB8646380B@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 17:39:05 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 10:39:05 -0600
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Message-ID: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry


----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer



Hello all,

I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Wed Sep  5 18:03:15 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:03:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>

Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry
------------------------------

*  From: *Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
*  Sent: *09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
*  To: *gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
*  Subject: *[gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' -
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From sfadden at us.ibm.com  Wed Sep  5 19:09:57 2012
From: sfadden at us.ibm.com (Scott Fadden)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:09:57 -0700
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>

Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer 
where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never 
checks a file on open, for example./ 

Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing 
Desk: (503) 578-5630 
Cell: (503) 880-5833 
sfadden at us.ibm.com
http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs



From:
Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
To:
gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>, 
Date:
09/05/2012 10:05 AM
Subject:
Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
Sent by:
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Goooooood - does that include writes from home?

Thanks!!!

Sent from my iPhone

On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than 
one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the 
last cache to push changes to home wins,
Scott Fadden
GPFS Technical Marketing
(503)880-5833
Sent from my Blackberry

  From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
  Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
  To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
  Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer

Hello all,
I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - 
anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 
which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise

Regards,
Barry Evans
Technical Director
CandIT Media UK Ltd
+44 7500 667 671
bevans at canditmedia.co.uk



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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep  6 09:39:18 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:39:18 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
In-Reply-To: <OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
References: <OF89449684.C6CD77C7-ON87257A70.005B7834@us.ibm.com>
	<8608749960351170897@unknownmsgid>
	<OFFFB25ACC.FAC6D2ED-ON88257A70.0063410E-88257A70.0063C991@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <3BDE47FE-8273-4A18-BD3A-4D3BF288F4FC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Great news! Thanks Scott!

Cheers,
Barry



On 5 Sep 2012, at 19:09, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, writes from home are "checked," which differes from single writer where the single writyer assumes that he is the only one writing and never checks a file on open, for example./ 
> 
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing 
> Desk: (503) 578-5630  
> Cell: (503) 880-5833  
> sfadden at us.ibm.com
> http://www.ibm.com/systems/gpfs 
> 
> 
> From:	Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk>
> To:	gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>,
> Date:	09/05/2012 10:05 AM
> Subject:	Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> Sent by:	gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Goooooood - does that include writes from home? 
> 
> Thanks!!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 5 Sep 2012, at 17:40, Scott Fadden <sfadden at us.ibm.com> wrote:
> This is a milti-writer cache mode. This means that you can have more than one cache writing for a subtree of the global namespace. In this mode the last cache to push changes to home wins,
> Scott Fadden
> GPFS Technical Marketing
> (503)880-5833
> Sent from my Blackberry
> 
> 
>   From: Barry Evans [bevans at canditmedia.co.uk]
>   Sent: 09/05/2012 04:50 PM CET
>   To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>   Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Independent-Writer
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I see there is a new afm mode in 3.5.0-3 called 'independent-writer' - anyone know what this does? I see that there is a changed error 6027-2181 which references it but not much info beyond that doc wise 
> 
> Regards, 
> Barry Evans 
> Technical Director 
> CandIT Media UK Ltd 
> +44 7500 667 671 
> bevans at canditmedia.co.uk 
> 
> 
> 
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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:42:36 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:42:36 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 15:49:45 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:49:45 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5051F289.9010400@ed.ac.uk>

On 13/09/12 15:42, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello there
>
>    Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?
>

I do (University of Edinburgh)


> If you do:
>
> 1)Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>

Linux - although we're about to trial Windows server backups (not GPFS).

> 2)Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>

Not yet - but about to trial this too! We're thinking of re-doing how we 
do disaster recovery, along the lines of rsync'ing a candidate list to 
an off-site HSM filesystem (as opposed to "dsmc incr")


> 3)Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a
> filelist generated by GPFS?

GPFS file list - not using mmbackup though, our own custom stuff instead 
(mmbackup wasn't stable at our scale when we started doing this).

>
> If you do not use TSM:
>
> 4)What backup / HSM software do you use?
>

We used to use EMC Networker. It couldn't keep up, so we jumped ship.

> Thanks
>
> Jez
>
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From ajt1 at noc.ac.uk  Thu Sep 13 16:11:09 2012
From: ajt1 at noc.ac.uk (Tyler, Amanda J.)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:11:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
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Reply from National Oceanography Centre Southampton

Yes we use TSM

1) TSM server runs AIX but gpfs nodes are linux

2) Not yet but there is a central NERC project looking into it.
We used Tivoli HSM for several years on a solaris server but stopped about 6 years ago because it had multiple performance issues.

3) We use TSM in the traditional mode for file backup/ archive.

Amanda Tyler


From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

Hello there

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

If you do:


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?



2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?



3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?


If you do not use TSM:


4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

Thanks

Jez
---
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Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org<mailto:chair at gpfsug.org>)


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From Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com  Thu Sep 13 16:19:30 2012
From: Sandra.McLaughlin at astrazeneca.com (McLaughlin, Sandra M)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:19:30 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305C7396@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <1332E4641C13494B98BB1E3DB32CC8150AF8CE09@ukaprdembx02.rd.astrazeneca.net>

Just ordered TSM, to integrate with a new GPFS setup. Linux only. Not
using HSM yet, possibly later. No idea about mode, sorry, as
installation is not yet complete, or completely planned.

 

Up to now we have used EMC Networker. 

 

Sandra.

 

From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Thu Sep 13 19:50:19 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 19:50:19 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>

All,

We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.

We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"

where file nsdchange has the following input

<nsdname> dmm

Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.

Any clues on this would be great

--
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catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


From a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:23:39 2012
From: a.k.ghumra at bham.ac.uk (Aslam Abdul Ghumra)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:23:39 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.5.1347549584.1045.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <F0658F4E7C8A084AB7E7895A257838CC520B4F2AB9@ADMMBX5.adf.bham.ac.uk>

Hi ( we do at Birmingham )


1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?
>>>>>>	We use TSM on Linux. 
2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?
>>>>>>	We don't use HSM currently on our HPC system
3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or pass a filelist generated by GPFS?
>>>>>>	We've had issues with mmbackup in v3.2, so use TSM in a traditional mode.

However we are currently upgrading TSM from our v5.5 to v6.3 and GPFS from v3.3 to v3.5 and onto new hardware.

Aslam Ghumra
C&IT (Unix & Storage) Specialist
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From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org
[mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Jez Tucker
Sent: 13 September 2012 15:43
To: gpfsug main discussion list
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Quick hand count of GPFS + TSM users

 

Hello there

 

  Of the membership, who of you [or your companies] use TSM with GPFS?

 

If you do:

 

1)      Do you use Windows or Linux TSM?

 

2)      Do you use HSM (Linux: TSM Space Management, Windows: TSM HSM)?

 

3)      Do you use TSM in the traditional mode for backup/archive, or
pass a filelist generated by GPFS?

 

 

If you do not use TSM:

 

4)      What backup / HSM software do you use?

 

Thanks

 

Jez

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From mail at arif-ali.co.uk  Fri Sep 14 10:38:15 2012
From: mail at arif-ali.co.uk (Arif Ali)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:38:15 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAM0VtDbjdo1=ZNjNvndjUsDufcQ1U8tNzsCsr-LcxQLgQr-1-A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM0VtDbLO1-cXWJ30dk8jctvb9KabahcB-uubcM-VLcAz-JcrQ@mail.gmail.com>

So a reply on this.

We bit the bullet and went ahead, and it worked a treat, literally
took 5 seconds to do.

On another note, something that would be useful for others. We all
know that without rdac the nsd node would moan for ~15 mins depending
the number of disks with I/O errors for any machines that are fibre
attached. One way to supress that would be to add the following kernel
parameter

rdloaddriver=scsi_dh_rdac

This saved us many hours on installing these machines. I hope it will
be useful for others.

For the purpose of google, so that they can find the info easily,
adding an excerpt of the error message below

sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:1:8: [sdal] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdal, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:0: [sddc] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddc, sector 64
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:11:8: [sddk] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sddk, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:4: [sdhb] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhb, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:8: [sdhf] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhf, sector 128
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 5:0:16:8: [sdex] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdex, sector 0
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:6: [sdhd] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdhd, sector 64
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] <<vendor>> ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1ASC=0x94 ASCQ=0x1
sd 6:0:6:2: [sdgz] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 08 00
end_request: I/O error, dev sdgz, sector 64

--
Arif Ali

catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


On 13 September 2012 19:50, Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk> wrote:
> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>treat
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
>
> Any clues on this would be great
>
> --
> Arif Ali
>
> catch me on freenode IRC, username: arif-ali


From sdenham at us.ibm.com  Fri Sep 14 14:17:59 2012
From: sdenham at us.ibm.com (Scott Denham)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:17:59 -0500
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] NSD device type
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
Message-ID: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>


gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org wrote on 09/14/2012 06:00:03 AM:


> From: Arif Ali <mail at arif-ali.co.uk>

> All,
>
> We are moving from rdac to multipath on one our customer
> installations, and the nsd type of the disk is generic, but when
> multipath is required, we need the device type to be changed to dmm.
>
> We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=$PWD/nsdchange"
>
> where file nsdchange has the following input
>
> <nsdname> dmm
>
> Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
type to be changed to dmm.
> >treat
> > We know we can change it using "mmchconfig updateNsdType=
$PWD/nsdchange"
> >
> > where file nsdchange has the following input
> >
> > <nsdname> dmm
> >
> > Would this have any impact on the disks themselves, or does this only
> > change /var/mmfs/gen/mmsdrfs.
> >
> > Any clues on this would be great

No impact on the contents of the disks, but you do have to have the file
system unmounted everywhere to do this - all of the nodes must be using the
same disk mode type.
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 14 15:04:26 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:04:26 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Big NAS deployments
In-Reply-To: <OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
References: <mailman.1.1347620403.31793.gpfsug-discuss@gpfsug.org>
	<OFCA333A81.9527ADDC-ON86257A79.0048B5B4-86257A79.00490F12@us.ibm.com>
Message-ID: <5053396A.7010708@ed.ac.uk>

Hi all,

We're planning a big NAS deployment at Edinburgh Uni, based on GPFS 
(with CTDB + Samba + NFS). We're very keen to hear about anyone who has 
done GPFS-based NAS on a scale of the order of ~5000 users (or higher) - 
but it would also be very helpful to just do a straw poll to find out 
who is doing this kind of stuff now.

So - I have two questions:

  1. Are you currently offering desktop-user NAS services from GPFS? If 
so - on what scale, and with what technologies?

  2. Have you deployed, or know of any deployments, GPFS-based NAS 
services on the scale of ~5000+ users?

And, while I'm here - has anyone put AFM (Active File Manager) into 
production yet? Care to share your story if you have?

Cheers,
Orlando.



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From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:05:24 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:05:24 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
	appreciated
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Hello all

  Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.

I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
[Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].

Please have a read of the presentations.

IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.

For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.

If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.

Regards,

    Jez

p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
---
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Senior Sysadmin
Rushes

GPFSUG Chairman (chair at gpfsug.org)




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep 25 14:41:57 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 14:41:57 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Presentations from UG #6 - Feedback for IBM
 appreciated
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CC3C2@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5061B4A5.3010603@ed.ac.uk>

On 25/09/12 14:05, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Hello all
>
>    Firstly can I thank all who attended UG #6.  We had a great turn out and the opportunity to network with more people from IBM was most welcome.
>
> I have uploaded the presentations from UG to this small, catchy URL: http://goo.gl/n1in1
> [Bar the SCCS presentation, awaiting clearance].
>
> Please have a read of the presentations.
>
> IBM Almaden Labs welcome your feedback regarding pNFS and Panache as well as FRQs etc.
>
> For instance, one FRQ idea banded around was a GRIO/QoS implementation for GPFS : E.G.: http://goo.gl/zjkN8
> It would be most helpful if a couple of lines use-case was alongside each of these.
>
> If these are messaged back to the list for healthy debate or sent to me directly I'll put them on the UG website for Almaden Labs to peruse/discuss with us.
>
> Regards,
>
>      Jez
>
> p.s. I'll also start to solicit previous presentations for UG < #5, so if you were a speaker, please get in touch.
> ---

Thanks for the great meeting Jez, and Claire et al at OCF.

On feature requests, I think one desirable feature request discussed at 
the meeting was for "better" performance monitoring tools.

A quick think through the things on my plate which would be eased with 
new/changed features in GPFS led me to this wishlist:

  - ability to change the designated NSD servers for an NSD without 
unmounting the filesystem everywhere

  - expansion of the AFM toolchain, including the following to assist 
with migration of data between filesystems:
    - ability to set a pre-existing fileset as a "cache" of an empty 
'home' fileset with AFM, allowing for a push of the data from the 
"cache" fileset/filesystem to the "home" target fileset/filesystem as a 
data migration strategy
    - ability to remove an AFM relationship between filesets, preserving 
data in the 'cache' fileset (and making it, independently, a 'live' fileset)
    - ability to "flip" the 'home'<->'cache' relationship, resulting in 
a flush from the new 'cache' fileset to the new 'home' fileset

  - better documentation (and, indeed, automation/automagic) on making 
best use of available memory within NSD servers

  - read caching of data blocks within an NSD server's memory (when 
acting in "server" mode in a multi-cluster environment where the client 
nodes do not have direct block access to the disks)

  - "hot file" identification tools/data for policy based HSM migration

  - some easy and non-invasive method for logging file and folder 
deletions (for the purposes of expiring backup data without using a 
separate database of files, in my case)

  - better licensing model (dare I say it - capacity based?)


I'd love to be able to change the blocksize on an existing filesystem 
too, but I imagine that's not possible.


--
Orlando



-- 
             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Thu Sep 27 18:49:13 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:49:13 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Samba 3.6 and the Windows 'O' attribtute
Message-ID: <520271A3-9C81-45AB-AD55-8CD3708C5730@canditmedia.co.uk>

Hello,

Having a little problem with samba at the moment with the gpfs vfs module loaded. In *every* version of enterprise samba 3.6, when browsing folders in windows explorer a good chunk of the files will come back incorrectly with the 'O' attribute (which is offline - you see this quite often when files have been migrated by HSM off to tape, but there isn't any HSM here). 

I have also been through every version of GPFS from 3.4.0-10 up to 3.5.0-3 to make sure it's not actually GPFS causing this. With each version, the behaviour is perfect in enterprise samba 3.5.18.

if you prevent the gpfs vfs module from loading in samba, the problem also disappears.

Anyone else run into this?

Cheers,
Barry




From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:03:07 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:03:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
Message-ID: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, 
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL 
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL 
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL 
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





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     Tel: 0131 650 4994

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From pete at realisestudio.com  Fri Sep 28 11:12:50 2012
From: pete at realisestudio.com (Pete Smith)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:12:50 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>

Is your rsync patched for ACLs?
-- 

On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>
> Sample test:
>
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:group@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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>   Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>        Unix Section
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>
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:28:23 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:28:23 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.

sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>            --
>   Dr Orlando Richards
>  Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>       Unix Section
>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
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From bevans at canditmedia.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 11:37:09 2012
From: bevans at canditmedia.co.uk (Barry Evans)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:09 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:

http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two filesystems, same machine.
> 
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to another? Not ideal.
> 
> Cheers,
> Barry
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> 
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> 
>> Sample test:
>> 
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> 
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
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>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
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From viccornell at gmail.com  Fri Sep 28 11:42:07 2012
From: viccornell at gmail.com (Vic Cornell)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:42:07 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<A1A4A4B1-3263-40FA-BDD5-2D04EFE20BE5@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <-8890182583230016147@unknownmsgid>

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http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/star-acl.html

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On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:37, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Here's the rsync patch from Ronnie Sahlberg back from '08. Never tried it
and not sure if it's actually part of rsync now, but it sounds pretty cool:
http://samba.2283325.n4.nabble.com/Patch-for-GPFS-support-td2508779.html

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:28, Barry Evans <bevans at canditmedia.co.uk> wrote:

Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either. two
filesystems, same machine.
sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
another? Not ideal.

Cheers,
Barry



On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>
wrote:

Hi folks,

Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?

I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.

Sample test:

# mkdir test
# mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
# mmgetacl test
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
(X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

# rsync -av test/ test2/
[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
#NFSv4 ACL
#owner:root
#group:root
special:owner@:---c:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:group@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED

special:everyone@:----:allow
(-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
(-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED





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           --
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:05:29 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:05:29 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<CAM9ZKkiA2UwBEKFBk+03JKgL8GvpjTOZ=d8R-+U21Sm3ZvvPTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <50658479.2020504@ed.ac.uk>



On 28/09/12 11:12, Pete Smith wrote:
> Is your rsync patched for ACLs?

Not by me - though I did find this patch from IBM back in 2008, but I 
can't get it to build against any version 3.0.x of rsync (I didn't go 
further back), and there was no follow up on the list that I can see 
(apart from one immediate response attempting to initiate dialogue).

   http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2008-October/021963.html

I'm currently entertaining doing:

dsmc incr -> dsmc restore!



> -- On 28 September 2012 11:03, Orlando Richards
> <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk> wrote:
>> >Hi folks,
>> >
>> >Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
>> >while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>> >
>> >I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>> >
>> >Sample test:
>> >
>> ># mkdir test
>> ># mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> ># mmgetacl test
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> >  (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> ># rsync -av test/ test2/
>> >[root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> >#NFSv4 ACL
>> >#owner:root
>> >#group:root
>> >special:owner@:---c:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> >(X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:group@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >special:everyone@:----:allow
>> >  (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> >(X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> >  (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> >(-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >             --
>> >    Dr Orlando Richards
>> >   Information Services
>> >IT Infrastructure Division
>> >        Unix Section
>> >     Tel: 0131 650 4994
>> >
>> >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland,
>> >with registration number SC005336.
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> >gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> >http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
> -- Pete Smith DevOp/System Administrator Realise Studio 12/13 Poland
> Street, London W1F 8QB T. +44 (0)20 7165 9644 realisestudio.com
> _______________________________________________ gpfsug-discuss mailing
> list gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>


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             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:06:27 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:06:27 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
Message-ID: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> two filesystems, same machine.
>
> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> another? Not ideal.

I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)

Still looking for something sane.

Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!

>
> Cheers,
> Barry
>
>
>
> On 28 Sep 2012, at 11:03, Orlando Richards <orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk
> <mailto:orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs
>> filesystems, while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
>>
>> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
>>
>> Sample test:
>>
>> # mkdir test
>> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
>> # mmgetacl test
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>> (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> # rsync -av test/ test2/
>> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
>> #NFSv4 ACL
>> #owner:root
>> #group:root
>> special:owner@:---c:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
>> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:group@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>> special:everyone@:----:allow
>> (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
>> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>> (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
>> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>            --
>>   Dr Orlando Richards
>>  Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>       Unix Section
>>    Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
>> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
>> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
>> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org <mailto:gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org>
>> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> gpfsug-discuss mailing list
> gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> http://gpfsug.org/mailman/listinfo/gpfsug-discuss
>


-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From jonathan at buzzard.me.uk  Fri Sep 28 12:30:11 2012
From: jonathan at buzzard.me.uk (Jonathan Buzzard)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:30:11 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>

On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> > Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> > two filesystems, same machine.
> >
> > sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> > another? Not ideal.
> 
> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> 

When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
resultant ACL's were still borked.

> Still looking for something sane.
> 

Would AFM not do the trick?

> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> 

What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.

JAB.

-- 
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Fife, United Kingdom.



From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 13:56:19 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 12:56:19 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD4C9@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Could you not use AFM?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 11:03
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone know a good way to sync files between two gpfs filesystems,
> while preserving NFSv4 ACL's?
> 
> I've tried rsync and cp - neither of which seem to copy over acls.
> 
> Sample test:
> 
> # mkdir test
> # mmeditacl -k nfs4 test
> # mmgetacl test
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> group:1234:rwxc:allow:FileInherit:DirInherit
>   (X)READ/LIST (X)WRITE/CREATE (X)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (X)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (X)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> # rsync -av test/ test2/
> [root at mwvm06 nasdev]# mmgetacl -k nfs4 test2
> #NFSv4 ACL
> #owner:root
> #group:root
> special:owner@:---c:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (X)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (X)WRITE_ACL
> (X)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:group@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> special:everyone@:----:allow
>   (-)READ/LIST (-)WRITE/CREATE (-)MKDIR (X)SYNCHRONIZE (X)READ_ACL
> (X)READ_ATTR  (-)READ_NAMED
>   (-)DELETE    (-)DELETE_CHILD (-)CHOWN (-)EXEC/SEARCH (-)WRITE_ACL
> (-)WRITE_ATTR (-)WRITE_NAMED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:10:47 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:10:47 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>

On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>
>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>> another? Not ideal.
>>
>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>
>
> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results where
> not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators etc. that
> robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow. I found
> xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows server the
> resultant ACL's were still borked.
>
>> Still looking for something sane.
>>
>
> Would AFM not do the trick?
>
>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>
>
> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on a
> modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>

Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday 
afternoon coding challenge, here's the problem:

I'm trying to apply this patch:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj

to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:

http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz

So I do:
mkdir -p src/rsync
cd src/rsync
wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
wget 
http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.obj
tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
cd rsync-3.0.6
patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff

./configure --prefix=/tmp
make


Error message is:

$ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c 
-o gpfs.o
In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
                  from gpfs.c:20:
proto.h:111:28: warning: ?struct rsync_gpfs_attr? declared inside 
parameter list [enabled by default]
proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or 
declaration, which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for ?gpfs_free_attr?
proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of ?gpfs_free_attr? was here
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_sxp?:
gpfs.c:142:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:144:20: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:145:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:146:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_cache_attr?:
gpfs.c:382:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:398:33: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:519:5: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:587:10: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:595:37: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:597:21: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:598:7: error: ?stat_x? has no member named ?gpfs_attr?
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1




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             --
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   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
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     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


From Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk  Fri Sep 28 15:46:00 2012
From: Jez.Tucker at rushes.co.uk (Jez Tucker)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:46:00 +0000
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>

Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
Grabbing rsync latest git.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
> 
> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
> >> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
> >>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
> >>> two filesystems, same machine.
> >>>
> >>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
> >>> another? Not ideal.
> >>
> >> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
> >>
> >
> > When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
> > where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
> > etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
> > I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
> > server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
> >
> >> Still looking for something sane.
> >>
> >
> > Would AFM not do the trick?
> >
> >> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
> >>
> >
> > What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
> > attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
> > a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
> >
> 
> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
> coding challenge, here's the problem:
> 
> I'm trying to apply this patch:
> 
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> 
> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
> 
> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> 
> So I do:
> mkdir -p src/rsync
> cd src/rsync
> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> wget
> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
> cd rsync-3.0.6
> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
> 
> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
> make
> 
> 
> Error message is:
> 
> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>                   from gpfs.c:20:
> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
> list [enabled by default]
> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
> each function it appears in
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
>              --
>     Dr Orlando Richards
>    Information Services
> IT Infrastructure Division
>         Unix Section
>      Tel: 0131 650 4994
> 
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
> registration number SC005336.
> _______________________________________________
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From orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk  Fri Sep 28 16:10:05 2012
From: orlando.richards at ed.ac.uk (Orlando Richards)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:10:05 +0100
Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
In-Reply-To: <39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
References: <506575DB.3010801@ed.ac.uk>
	<3316F8DC-2190-4560-846C-7DECCDB854EC@canditmedia.co.uk>
	<506584B3.8070404@ed.ac.uk>
	<1348831811.26504.12.camel@buzzard.phy.strath.ac.uk>
	<5065AFE7.4000008@ed.ac.uk>
	<39571EA9316BE44899D59C7A640C13F5305CD62D@WARVWEXC1.uk.deluxe-eu.com>
Message-ID: <5065BDCD.1020902@ed.ac.uk>

Some progress at my end - installing libacl1-dev on my ubuntu dev box 
has helped a bit, as has setting:
CFLAGS=-g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W
in the Makefile built by configure.

New errors though:

gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSUPPORT_GPFS -Wall -W 
-c gpfs.c -o gpfs.o
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_free_list?:
gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function ?DEBUG_GTE? 
[-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
gpfs.c:162:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once 
for each function it appears in
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_receive_attr_int?:
gpfs.c:212:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_find_attr?:
gpfs.c:344:20: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_send_attr?:
gpfs.c:403:17: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_get_attr?:
gpfs.c:522:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_set_attr?:
gpfs.c:538:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
gpfs.c: In function ?gpfs_attr_get_changed?:
gpfs.c:601:16: error: ?ACL? undeclared (first use in this function)
make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1



On 28/09/12 15:46, Jez Tucker wrote:
> Well, since it's Friday and I've just been tracing gpfs_get_winattr issues all the way back from SAMBAs vfs_gpfs.h to gpfs.so, might as well have a punt.
> Grabbing rsync latest git.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-
>> bounces at gpfsug.org] On Behalf Of Orlando Richards
>> Sent: 28 September 2012 15:11
>> To: gpfsug-discuss at gpfsug.org
>> Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Copying ACLs between filesystems
>>
>> On 28/09/12 12:30, Jonathan Buzzard wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 12:06 +0100, Orlando Richards wrote:
>>>> On 28/09/12 11:28, Barry Evans wrote:
>>>>> Just tried rsync -A (preserve acl's) on this end, no joy there either.
>>>>> two filesystems, same machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> sounds very, very evil but have you tried robocopy from one share to
>>>>> another? Not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> I've considered it - but not yet desperate enough to try it :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I have tried doing this from Windows file servers the results
>>> where not nice as Windows has ACL's for things like administrators
>>> etc. that robocopy attempted to copy over. It was also painfully slow.
>>> I found xcopy was a lot faster, though as my source was a Windows
>>> server the resultant ACL's were still borked.
>>>
>>>> Still looking for something sane.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Would AFM not do the trick?
>>>
>>>> Good to see I'm not just missing something blatantly obvious though!
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's your coding like? Depending how often you are going to be
>>> attempting this I would fix the IBM patches for rsync so they work on
>>> a modern version of rsync. Patch does not look to complicated to me.
>>>
>>
>> Beyond my abilities it seems. If anyone fancies having a friday afternoon
>> coding challenge, here's the problem:
>>
>> I'm trying to apply this patch:
>>
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>>
>> to rsync - let's say version 3.0.6:
>>
>> http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>>
>> So I do:
>> mkdir -p src/rsync
>> cd src/rsync
>> wget http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/src/rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> wget
>> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/attachments/20081021/015484b1/rsync
>> _gpfs_attrs-git.obj
>> tar -zxf rsync-3.0.6.tar.gz
>> cd rsync-3.0.6
>> patch -p1 -F3 -i ../rsync_gpfs_attrs-git.diff
>>
>> ./configure --prefix=/tmp
>> make
>>
>>
>> Error message is:
>>
>> $ make gcc -std=gnu99 -I. -I. -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -Wall -W  -c gpfs.c -o
>> gpfs.o In file included from rsync.h:920:0,
>>                    from gpfs.c:20:
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: 'struct rsync_gpfs_attr' declared inside parameter
>> list [enabled by default]
>> proto.h:111:28: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration,
>> which is probably not what you want [enabled by default]
>> gpfs.c:130:6: error: conflicting types for 'gpfs_free_attr'
>> proto.h:111:6: note: previous declaration of 'gpfs_free_attr' was here
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_sxp':
>> gpfs.c:142:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:144:20: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:145:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:146:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_free_list':
>> gpfs.c:162:3: warning: implicit declaration of function 'DEBUG_GTE'
>> [-Wimplicit-function-declaration]
>> gpfs.c:162:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c:162:17: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for
>> each function it appears in
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_receive_attr_int':
>> gpfs.c:212:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_find_attr':
>> gpfs.c:344:20: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_cache_attr':
>> gpfs.c:382:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_send_attr':
>> gpfs.c:398:33: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:403:17: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_get_attr':
>> gpfs.c:519:5: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:522:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_set_attr':
>> gpfs.c:538:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> gpfs.c: In function 'gpfs_attr_get_changed':
>> gpfs.c:587:10: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:595:37: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:597:21: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:598:7: error: 'stat_x' has no member named 'gpfs_attr'
>> gpfs.c:601:16: error: 'ACL' undeclared (first use in this function)
>> make: *** [gpfs.o] Error 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>               --
>>      Dr Orlando Richards
>>     Information Services
>> IT Infrastructure Division
>>          Unix Section
>>       Tel: 0131 650 4994
>>
>> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with
>> registration number SC005336.
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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-- 
             --
    Dr Orlando Richards
   Information Services
IT Infrastructure Division
        Unix Section
     Tel: 0131 650 4994

The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in 
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.