<html><body><p><font size="2">Hi Luis</font><br><br><font size="2">Thanks for your reply.. It should address Andi's issue as the underlying Swift version is what is important and the functionality he needs is in the latest releases (I was told 5.1 includes Swift Train which is the latest version).</font><br><br><font size="2">Am sure there is a beta program for Spectrum Scale.. Perhaps Andi should speak to his software sales rep and ask to be included on it to get access so that he can test.</font><br><br><font size="2" face="Arial">Kind Regards</font><br><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Nishaan Docrat <br>Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems</font></b><br><font size="2" face="Arial">IBM Systems Hardware<br></font><br><font size="2" face="Arial">Work: +27 (0)11 302 5001<br>Mobile: +27 (0)81 040 3793<br>Email: nishaan@za.ibm.com</font><p><a href="http://www.ibm.com/storage"><img src="cid:1__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" width="420" height="105" border="0"></a><br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:2__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for "Luis Bolinches" ---2020/10/28 09:29:48---Hi 5.1.x is going GA very soon (TM). Would it address the"><font size="2" color="#424282">"Luis Bolinches" ---2020/10/28 09:29:48---Hi 5.1.x is going GA very soon (TM). Would it address the issues Andi sees on his environment or n</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From: </font><font size="2">"Luis Bolinches" <luis.bolinches@fi.ibm.com></font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To: </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Cc: </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date: </font><font size="2">2020/10/28 09:29</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject: </font><font size="2">[EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Sent by: </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><font face="Arial">Hi</font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><font face="Arial">5.1.x is going GA very soon (TM). Would it address the issues Andi sees on his environment or not I cannot say.</font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><font face="Arial">I can take it with Andi for more details on the GA date</font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">--<br>Ystävällisin terveisin / Kind regards / Saludos cordiales / Salutations</font></b><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F"> / </font></b><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Salutacions<br>Luis Bolinches</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Consultant IT Specialist</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">IBM Spectrum Scale development</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Mobile Phone: +358503112585</font></b><br><b><font color="#7C7C5F"> </font></b><br><a href="https://www.youracclaim.com/user/luis-bolinches" target="_blank"><b><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">https://www.youracclaim.com/user/luis-bolinches</font></u></b></a><br><b><font color="#7C7C5F"> </font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Ab IBM Finland Oy</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Laajalahdentie 23</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">00330 Helsinki</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial">Uusimaa - Finland</font></b><br><b><font size="2" color="#7C7C5F" face="Arial"><br>"If you always give you will always have" -- Anonymous</font></b><br><font size="1"> </font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><font face="Arial"> </font><br><font face="Arial">----- Original message -----<br>From: "Nishaan Docrat" <NISHAAN@za.ibm.com><br>Sent by: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org<br>To: Andi Christiansen <andi@christiansen.xxx><br>Cc: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.<br>Date: Wed, Oct 28, 2020 08:47<br> </font><p><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi Andi</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>The s3api middleware does support multipart uploads..</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Arial"><br></font></u><a href="https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html" target="_blank"><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html</font></u></a><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>The current version of Swift (PIKE) that is bundled with Spectrum Scale 5.0.X doesn't.. </font><a href="https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/STXKQY_5.0.5/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v5r05.doc/bl1adm_ManagingOpenStackACLsviaAmazonS3API.htm" target="_blank"><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/STXKQY_5.0.5/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v5r05.doc/bl1adm_ManagingOpenStackACLsviaAmazonS3API.htm</font></u></a><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>According to the Spectrum Scale Roadmap, 5.1 is due out 2H20.. Not sure if someone from development can confirm the GA date.</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Does Veeam have a test utility? You could always test it using the current Swift AIO or if you can provide me with a test utility I can test that for you.</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Kind Regards</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Nishaan Docrat<br>Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems</font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>IBM Systems Hardware</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Work: +27 (0)11 302 5001<br>Mobile: +27 (0)81 040 3793<br>Email: nishaan@za.ibm.com</font><p><a href="http://www.ibm.com/storage" target="_blank"><img src="cid:1__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" width="420" height="105" border="0"></a><font face="Arial"><br><br></font><img src="cid:2__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" width="16" height="16" alt="Inactive hide details for Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/28 08:24:55---Hi Nishaan, Thanks for you reply."><font size="2" color="#424282" face="Arial">Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/28 08:24:55---Hi Nishaan, Thanks for you reply.</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>From: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">Andi Christiansen <andi@christiansen.xxx></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>To: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org>, Nishaan Docrat <NISHAAN@za.ibm.com></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>Date: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">2020/10/28 08:24</font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>Subject: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">[EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.</font><p><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left"><font face="Arial"><br><br></font><font size="2" color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial"><br>Hi Nishaan, Thanks for you reply. When you say 5.1? is that 5.1.x.x or 5.0.5.1? Some... </font><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="100%" bgcolor="#9CA3A7" valign="middle"><div align="center"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="782"><div align="center"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="393" bgcolor="#9CA3A7"><div align="center"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr valign="top"><td width="198" valign="middle"><b><font size="4" face="Helvetica">This Message Is From an External Sender</font></b></td></tr>
<tr valign="top"><td width="198" valign="middle"><font size="2" face="Helvetica">This message came from outside your organization.</font></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table><font face="Arial">Hi Nishaan,<br><br>Thanks for you reply.<br><br>When you say 5.1? is that 5.1.x.x or 5.0.5.1?<br><br>Some of the limitations we have encountered is the multipart upload not being supported and some md5sum that the s3 api does that veeam actually dont like. also interms of the management on the Scale GUI, that has to be on one of the S3 CES nodes in order to be able to show project, container etc... but when you have a HAProxy for enabling SSL then a GUI is not available as they both use port 443?<br><br><br>i know min.io is not the full stack of S3 API commands but as far as i can read it comes with more features out of the box than Scale S3 does, multipart for an example...<br><br>I looked through your documentation and its very close to what we have set up today and found to not work...<br><br>If multipart uploads would be supported today on scale S3 i would think about still using scale for the s3 part but as i expect that you talk about 5.1.x.x i dont see that being released any time soon? and dont know if that is actually going to be supported in that release then i cant wait for that to happen..<br><br>Best Regards<br>Andi Christiansen </font><ul><ul><ul><ul><font face="Arial">On 10/27/2020 2:38 PM Nishaan Docrat <nishaan@za.ibm.com> wrote:<br> </font><p><font size="2" face="Arial">Hi Andi</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>The current S3 compatibility in Spectrum Scale is delivered via the Swift3 middleware. This middleware has since been replaced by s3api in later versions of Swift. Spectrum Scale 5.1 will make use of Swift Train release which will include the new s3api middleware.</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>I've tested the S3 compatibility with a few applications including Spectrum Scale itself (i.e. Cloud Data Sharing to another Scale Object store using S3 API) and Spectrum Protect etc. and haven't had any issue. I've also ran a few application tools to test for an S3 compliant object stores and again had no issues. </font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>You can use s3compat to test the current compatibility.. Or you can check here for the current compatibility.. </font><a href="https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html" target="_blank"><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">https://docs.openstack.org/swift/latest/s3_compat.html</font></u></a><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Not sure if there is any other way to talk HTTPS without using HAProxy. </font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>In any case, I've documented the process to setup an S3 compliant object store including supporting virtual-hosted style bucket addressing which you can find here..</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Arial"><br></font></u><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6720227398756909056/" target="_blank"><b><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6720227398756909056/</font></u></b></a><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Most storage vendors including minio would not support the full S3 API stack as alot of the calls are specific to AWS (like billing stuff etc.).</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Anyway, good luck with your testing.</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Kind Regards</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Nishaan Docrat<br>Client Technical Specialist - Storage Systems</font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>IBM Systems Hardware</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>Work: +27 (0)11 302 5001<br>Mobile: +27 (0)81 040 3793<br>Email: nishaan@za.ibm.com</font><p><a href="http://www.ibm.com/storage" target="_blank"><img src="cid:1__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" width="420" height="105" border="0"></a><font face="Arial"><br><br></font><img src="cid:2__=CDBB0C9CDFB9D9C48f9e8a93df938690918cCDB@" width="16" height="16" alt="Inactive hide details for Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/27 13:59:30---Hi all, We have over a longer period used the S3 API withi"><font size="2" color="#424282" face="Arial">Andi Christiansen ---2020/10/27 13:59:30---Hi all, We have over a longer period used the S3 API within spectrum Scale.. And that has shown that</font><font face="Arial"><br></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>From: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">Andi Christiansen <andi@christiansen.xxx></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>To: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">"gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org></font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>Date: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">2020/10/27 13:59</font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>Subject: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">[EXTERNAL] [gpfsug-discuss] Alternative to Scale S3 API.</font><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F" face="Arial"><br>Sent by: </font><font size="2" face="Arial">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</font><p><font face="Arial"> </font><p><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade><font face="Arial"><br><br><br>Hi all,<br><br><br><br>We have over a longer period used the S3 API within spectrum Scale.. And that has shown that it does not support very many applications because of limitations of the API..<br><br><br><br>Has anyone got any experience with any other product we can deploy on-top of Spectrum Scale that will give us a true S3 API with full functionalities and able to answer on port 443? As of now we use HAProxy to forware ssl request back and forth from Scale S3 API.<br><br><br><br>We have looked at MinIO which seems to be fairly simple and maybe might solve a lot of incompatibilities with clients software. 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