<div class="socmaildefaultfont" dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt" ><div dir="ltr" >Kevin you are correct, it is one "system" storage pool per file system not cluster.</div>
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<blockquote data-history-content-modified="1" dir="ltr" style="border-left:solid #aaaaaa 2px; margin-left:5px; padding-left:5px; direction:ltr; margin-right:0px" >----- Original message -----<br>From: "Buterbaugh, Kevin L" <Kevin.Buterbaugh@Vanderbilt.Edu><br>Sent by: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org<br>To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>Cc:<br>Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] GPFS v5: Blocksizes and subblocks<br>Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2019 10:33 AM<br> <br><!--Notes ACF
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<div>So I was looking at the presentation referenced below and it states - on multiple slides - that there is one system storage pool per cluster.  Really?  Shouldn’t that be one system storage pool per filesystem?!?  If not, please explain how in my GPFS cluster with two (local) filesystems I see two different system pools with two different sets of NSDs, two different capacities, and two different percentages full???</div>
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<div>Thanks…</div>
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<div>Kevin</div>
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<div>Kevin Buterbaugh - Senior System Administrator</div>
<div>Vanderbilt University - Advanced Computing Center for Research and Education</div>
<div><a href="mailto:Kevin.Buterbaugh@vanderbilt.edu" target="_blank">Kevin.Buterbaugh@vanderbilt.edu</a> - (615)875-9633</div></div></div>
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<blockquote type="cite" ><div>On Mar 26, 2019, at 11:27 AM, Dorigo Alvise (PSI) <<a href="mailto:alvise.dorigo@psi.ch" target="_blank">alvise.dorigo@psi.ch</a>> wrote:</div> 

<div><div><div>Hi Marc,</div>
<div>"Indirect block size" is well explained in this presentation:<span> </span></div>
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<div><a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.gpfsug.org%2Fpresentations%2F2016%2Fsouth-bank%2FD2_P2_A_spectrum_scale_metadata_dark_V2a.pdf&data=02%7C01%7CKevin.Buterbaugh%40vanderbilt.edu%7C5b28a9a0d39a47fd3f0608d6b208186a%7Cba5a7f39e3be4ab3b45067fa80faecad%7C0%7C1%7C636892145179816620&sdata=SDAw4EXR1jNDYZRdIPtNVuhR1ZfBiUFcF7%2FCrprNwag%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://files.gpfsug.org/presentations/2016/south-bank/D2_P2_A_spectrum_scale_metadata_dark_V2a.pdf" shash="cTgclma2BYLWO8+U2OSNl3mbJ5gHwSxskH4XL3Lqw8okCCRbJRsIrI5w53SGaJlxdkanrAi4R1qxnF9aBK4wdjpGYHlyNuxUVXQomC6uQFY0wjEbeX/WlaShhvNApZMyNeiCd9IVdFvOdm7PuYcQfnQNLksrS1XVpXwlAIAZl1U=" target="_blank">http://files.gpfsug.org/presentations/2016/south-bank/D2_P2_A_spectrum_scale_metadata_dark_V2a.pdf</a></div>
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<div>pages 37-41</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>   Alvise</div>
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<div style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 16px;" ><hr tabindex="-1" ><div id="divRpF933280" style="direction: ltr;" ><font size="2" face="Tahoma" ><b>From:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a><span> </span>[<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a>] on behalf of Caubet Serrabou Marc (PSI) [<a href="mailto:marc.caubet@psi.ch" target="_blank">marc.caubet@psi.ch</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday, March 26, 2019 4:39 PM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>gpfsug main discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>[gpfsug-discuss] GPFS v5: Blocksizes and subblocks</font><br> </div>
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<div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;" ><div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>according to several GPFS presentations as well as according to the man pages:</div>
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<div><font face="Courier New" >         Table 1. Block sizes and subblock sizes<br><br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+<br>| Block size                    | Subblock size                 |<br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+<br>| 64 KiB                        | 2 KiB                         |<br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+<br>| 128 KiB                       | 4 KiB                         |<br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+<br>| 256 KiB, 512 KiB, 1 MiB, 2    | 8 KiB                         |<br>| MiB, 4 MiB                    |                               |<br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+<br>| 8 MiB, 16 MiB                 | 16 KiB                        |<br>+-------------------------------+-------------------------------+</font><br> </div>
<div>A block size of 8MiB or 16MiB should contain subblocks of 16KiB.</div>
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<div>However, when creating a new filesystem with 16MiB blocksize, looks like is using 128KiB subblocks:</div>
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<div><font face="Courier New" >[root@merlindssio01 ~]# mmlsfs merlin<br>flag                value                    description<br>------------------- ------------------------ -----------------------------------<br> -f                 8192                     Minimum fragment (subblock) size in bytes (system pool)<br>                    131072                   Minimum fragment (subblock) size in bytes (other pools)<br> -i                 4096                     Inode size in bytes<br> -I                 32768                    Indirect block size in bytes<br>.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Courier New" > -n                 128                      Estimated number of nodes that will mount file system<br> -B                 1048576                  Block size (system pool)<br>                    16777216                 Block size (other pools)<br>.</font></div>
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<div>What am I missing? According to documentation, I expect this to be a fixed value, or it isn't at all?</div>
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<div>On the other hand, I don't really understand the concept 'Indirect block size in bytes', can somebody clarify or provide some details about this setting?</div>
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<div>Thanks a lot and best regards,</div>
<div>Marc              <span> </span>
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