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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Lohit, Nathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Would you be willing to share some more details about your setup? We are just getting started here and I would like to hear about what your configuration looks like. Direct email to me is fine, thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Bob Oesterlin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org> on behalf of "valleru@cbio.mskcc.org" <valleru@cbio.mskcc.org><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:45 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Singularity + GPFS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We do run Singularity + GPFS, on our production HPC clusters.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">However, i do see a significant performance loss when running some applications on singularity containers with GPFS.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">As of now, the applications that have severe performance issues with singularity on GPFS - seem to be because of “mmap io”. (Deep learning applications)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">When i run the same application on bare metal, they seem to have a huge difference in GPFS IO when compared to running on singularity containers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I am yet to raise a PMR about this with IBM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I have not seen performance degradation for any other kind of IO, but i am not sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Regards,<br>
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On Apr 26, 2018, 10:35 AM -0400, Nathan Harper <nathan.harper@cfms.org.uk>, wrote:<br>
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