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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You can apply fileset quotas to independent filesets to you know. Sorry if that sounds passive aggressive, not meant to be!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Main reason for us NOT to use dependent filesets is lack of snapshotting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2018 13:14<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We use a dependent fileset for each research group / investigator. We do this mainly so we can apply fileset quotas. We tried independent filesets but they were quite inconvenient:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) limited number independent filesets could be created compared to dependent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) requirement to manage number of inodes allocated to each and every independent fileset<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There may have been other issues but we create a new dependent fileset whenever a new researcher joins our cluster. <o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Daniel Kidger <<a href="mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com">daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It would though be a nice to have feature: to leave the file data where it was and just move the metadata into its own inode space?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">In what case do people create new *dependant* filesets ? I can't see many cases where an independent fileset would be just as valid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">----- Original message -----<br>
From: "Sobey, Richard A" <<a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk">r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>
Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 10:01 AM<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Marc</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes, copying the data to a freshly created fileset and unlinking/renaming/relinking is our solution; it was always a long shot expecting to be able to convert it
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Richard</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marc A Kaplan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2018 13:49<br>
<b>To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list <<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">To help make sense of this, one has to understand that "independent" means a different range of inode numbers.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If you have a set of files within one range of inode numbers, say 3000-5000 and now you want to move some of them to a new range of inode numbers, say 7000-8000, you're going to have to create
that new range as a new independent fileset, and then move (copy!) the files to the new fileset. And then rename directories so that you can once again refer to the files by the pathnames that they "used to" have.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">During the copying and renaming, you would have to make sure there are no applications trying to access those files and directories.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Sobey, Richard A" <<a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk" target="_blank">r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a>></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"'<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>'" <<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">04/24/2018 05:20 AM</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">[gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Hi all,</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Is there any way, without starting over, to convert a dependent fileset to independent?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My gut says no but in the spirit of not making unnecessary work I wanted to ask.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Also, the documentation states that I should see a “dpnd” next to a dependent fileset when I run mmlsfileset with -L; this is not the case even though the parent fileset is root in this case.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">[root@nsd bin]# mmlsfileset gpfs studentrecruitmentandoutreach -L</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Filesets in file system 'gpfs':</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Name Id RootInode ParentId Created InodeSpace MaxInodes AllocInodes Comment</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">studentrecruitmentandoutreach 241 8700824 0 Wed Feb 14 14:25:49 2018 0 0 0</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
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