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<div class="">I do have metadata replication set to two, so Alex, does that make more sense?</div>
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<div class="">And I had forgotten about indirect blocks for large files, which actually makes sense with the user in question … my apologies for that … due to a very gravely ill pet and a recovering at home from pneumonia family member I’m way more sleep deprived
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<div class="">Fred - I think you’ve already answered this … but mmchfs can only create / allocate more inodes … it cannot be used to shrink the number of inodes?  That would make sense, and if that’s the case then I can allocate more NSDs to the system pool.</div>
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<div class="">Thanks…</div>
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<div class="">Kevin</div>
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<div class="">On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Alex Chekholko <<a href="mailto:alex@calicolabs.com" class="">alex@calicolabs.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">2.8TB seems quite high for only 350M inodes.  Are you sure you only have metadata in there?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Frederick Stock <span dir="ltr" class="">
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif" class="">One possibility is the creation/expansion of directories or allocation of indirect blocks for large files.</font><br class="">
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<font size="2" face="sans-serif" class="">Not sure if this is the issue here but at one time inode allocation was considered slow and so folks may have pre-allocated inodes to avoid that overhead during file creation.  To my understanding inode creation time
 is not so slow that users need to pre-allocate inodes.  Yes, there are likely some applications where pre-allocating may be necessary but I expect they would be the exception.  I mention this because you have a lot of free inodes and of course once they are
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<font size="3" class="">I was under the (possibly false) impression that if you have a filesystem where the system pool contains metadata only then the only thing that would cause the amount of free space in that pool to change is the creation of more inodes
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<font size="3" class="">Inode Information</font><br class="">
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<font size="3" class="">Number of used inodes:       218635454</font><br class="">
<font size="3" class="">Number of free inodes:       131364674</font><br class="">
<font size="3" class="">Number of allocated inodes:  350000128</font><br class="">
<font size="3" class="">Maximum number of inodes:    350000128</font><br class="">
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I would not expect that a user creating a few hundred or thousands of files could cause a “no space left on device” error (which I’ve got one user getting).  There’s plenty of free data space, BTW.</font><br class="">
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<font size="3" class="">Now my system pool is almost “full”:</font><br class="">
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<font size="3" class="">(pool total)           2.878T                                   34M (  0%)        140.9M ( 0%)</font><br class="">
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<font size="3" class="">But again, what - outside of me creating more inodes - would cause that to change??</font><br class="">
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