<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I understand that this near linear performance is one of the differentiators of Spectrum Scale.<div>Others with more field experience than me might want to comment on how Lustre and other distributed filesystem perform as they approaches near full capacity.</div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Daniel</span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><img alt="/spectrum_storage-banne" src="http://ausgsa.ibm.com/projects/t/tivoli_visual_design/public/2015/Spectrum-Storage/Email-signatures/Storage/spectrum_storage-banner.png" width="432.5" height="auto" style="width: 601px; height: 5px;"></span></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br> </span></div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="font-family: sans-serif;"><tbody><tr style="word-wrap: break-word; max-width: 447.5px;"><td style="word-wrap: break-word; max-width: 447.5px; width: 201px; padding: 0cm;"><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><img alt="Spectrum Scale Logo" src="http://ausgsa.ibm.com/projects/t/tivoli_visual_design/public/2015/Spectrum-Storage/Email-signatures/Storage/spectrum_scale-logo.png" style="width: 75px; height: 120px; float: left;"></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><font face=".SFUIDisplay"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></font></div></td><td style="word-wrap: break-word; max-width: 447.5px; width: 21px; padding: 0cm;"><font face=".SFUIDisplay"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> </span></font></td><td style="word-wrap: break-word; max-width: 447.5px; width: 202px; padding: 0cm;"><div style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"><font face=".SFUIDisplay"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><strong>Dr Daniel Kidger</strong> <br>IBM Technical Sales Specialist<br>Software Defined Solution Sales<br><br><a dir="ltr" href="tel:+%2044-7818%20522%20266" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1">+</a> <a dir="ltr" href="tel:+%2044-7818%20522%20266" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1">44-(0)7818 522 266</a> <br><a dir="ltr" href="mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="2">daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com</a></span></font></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br>On 7 Nov 2017, at 00:12, Carl <<a href="mailto:mutantllama@gmail.com">mutantllama@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks to all for the information. <div><br></div><div>Im happy to say that it is close to what I hoped would be the case. </div><div><br></div><div>Interesting to see the effect of the -n value. Reinforces the need to think about it and not go with the defaults.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again,</div><div><br></div><div>Carl.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 November 2017 at 03:18, Achim Rehor <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Achim.Rehor@de.ibm.com" target="_blank">Achim.Rehor@de.ibm.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size="2" face="sans-serif">I have no practical experience on these
numbers, however, Peters experience below is matching what i learned from
Dan years ago.</font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">As long as the -n setting of the FS
(the number of nodes potentially mounting the fs) is more or less matching
the actual number of mounts, </font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">this 99.x % before degradation is expected.
If you are far off with that -n estimate, like having it set to 32, but
the actual number of mounts is in the thousands,</font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">then degradation happens earlier, since
the distribution of free blocks in the allocation maps is not matching
the actual setup as good as it could be. </font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Naturally, this depends also on how
you do filling of the FS. If it is only a small percentage of the nodes,
doing the creates, then the distribution can </font><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">be 'wrong' as well, and single nodes
run earlier out of allocation map space, and need to look for free blocks
elsewhere, costing RPC cycles and thus performance. </font><br><br><font size="2" face="sans-serif">Putting this in numbers seems quite
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 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Peter Smith <<a href="mailto:peter.smith@framestore.com" target="_blank">peter.smith@framestore.com</a>></font><span class=""><br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">To:      
 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">gpfsug main discussion
list <<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.<wbr>org</a>></font><br></span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Date:      
 </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">11/06/2017 09:17 AM</font><br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Subject:    
   </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re: [gpfsug-discuss]
Performance of GPFS when filesystem is almost        full</font><br><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="sans-serif">Sent by:    
   </font><font size="1" face="sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@<wbr>spectrumscale.org</a></font><br></p><hr noshade=""><span class=""><br><br><br><tt><font size="3">Hi Carl.<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="3">When we commissioned our system we ran an NFS stress
tool, and filled the system to the top.<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="3">No performance degradation was seen until it was 99.7%
full.<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="3">I believe that after this point it takes longer to
find free blocks to write to.<br></font></tt><br><tt><font size="3">YMMV.</font></tt><br><br><font size="3">On 6 November 2017 at 03:35, Carl <</font><a href="mailto:mutantllama@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>mutantllama@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3">>
wrote:</font><br></span><div><div class="h5"><font size="3">Hi Folk,</font><br><br><font size="3">Does anyone have much experience with the performance
of GPFS as it becomes close to full. In particular I am referring to split
data/meta data, where the data pool goes over 80% utilisation. </font><br><br><font size="3">How much degradation do you see above 80% usage, 90% usage?</font><br><br><font size="3">Cheers,</font><br><br><font size="3">Carl.</font><br><br><br></div></div><span class=""><font size="3"><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>gpfsug-discuss mailing list<br>gpfsug-discuss at </font><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__spectrumscale.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HlQDuUjgJx4p54QzcXd0_zTwf4Cr2t3NINalNhLTA2E&m=zatwEi1ZS1fdfJjSR0DnoHq8vd75vVJcEyrIbaU1Hyw&s=ql8RA3_vpc7iOubmRTKJDfyZ78LA2tNhXA5x2oIRzNk&e=" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>spectrumscale.org</u></font></a><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br></u></font><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gpfsug.org_mailman_listinfo_gpfsug-2Ddiscuss&d=DwMFaQ&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HlQDuUjgJx4p54QzcXd0_zTwf4Cr2t3NINalNhLTA2E&m=zatwEi1ZS1fdfJjSR0DnoHq8vd75vVJcEyrIbaU1Hyw&s=mnAoejImXp73wvcmpdLPXNi3JjPAmpAMDtzqIBnK7fs&e=" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>http://gpfsug.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gpfsug-discuss</u></font></a><font size="3"><br></font><br><font size="3"><br><br><br>-- </font><br></span><span class=""><font size="3" color="#4181c0"><b>Peter Smith</b> · Senior Systems Engineer<b><br>London</b> · New York · Los Angeles · Chicago · Montréal</font><font size="3"><br>T  <a href="tel:+44%2020%207344%208000" value="+442073448000" target="_blank">+44 (0)20 7344 8000</a> · M  </font><a href="tel:+44%20%280%297816%20123009" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="#0082bf">+44
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