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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Felipe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On a related note, would everything in 4.2.3-4 efix2 be included in 4.2.3-5? In particular the previously discussed around defect 1020461? There was no APAR for this defect when I last looked on
 30<sup>th</sup> August.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org [mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Felipe Knop<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 October 2017 14:09<br>
<b>To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network reconnect function may result in file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tomasz,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">The fix (APAR 1IJ00398) has been included in 4.2.3.5, despite the APAR number having been omitted from the list of fixes in the PTF.</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Regards,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">   Felipe</span><br>
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Felipe Knop                                     knop@us.ibm.com<br>
GPFS Development and Security<br>
IBM Systems<br>
IBM Building 008<br>
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(845) 433-9314  T/L 293-9314<br>
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<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"Tomasz.Wolski@ts.fujitsu.com" <Tomasz.Wolski@ts.fujitsu.com></span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">IBM Spectrum Scale <scale@us.ibm.com>, gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org></span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Cc:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" <gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org></span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">10/25/2017 05:42 AM</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network
 reconnect function may result in file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)</span><br>
<span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080">Thank you for the information. I was checking changelog for GPFS 4.2.3.5 standard edition, but it does not mention APAR IJ00398:</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080"> </span><br>
<a href="https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0&uid=isg400003555"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=0&uid=isg400003555</span></a><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080">This update addresses the following APARs: IJ00031 IJ00094 IJ00397 IV99611 IV99675 IV99676 IV99677 IV99678 IV99679 IV99680 IV99709 IV99796.</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080">On the other hand Flash Notification advices upgrading to GPFS 4.2.3.5:</span><br>
<a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=ssg1S1010668&myns=s033&mynp=OCSTXKQY&mynp=OCSWJ00&mync=E&cm_sp=s033-_-OCSTXKQY-OCSWJ00-_-E"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=ssg1S1010668&myns=s033&mynp=OCSTXKQY&mynp=OCSWJ00&mync=E&cm_sp=s033-_-OCSTXKQY-OCSWJ00-_-E</span></a><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080">Could you please verify if that version contains the fix?</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080"> </span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#004080">Best regards,<br>
Tomasz Wolski</span><br>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> Felipe Knop [</span><a href="mailto:knop@us.ibm.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:knop@us.ibm.com</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>IBM Spectrum Scale<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 2:31 PM<b><br>
To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list<b><br>
Cc:</b> gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org; Wolski, Tomasz<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network reconnect function may result in file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tomasz,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><br>
Though the error in the NSD RPC has been the most visible manifestation of the problem, this issue could end up affecting other RPCs as well, so the fix should be applied even for SAN configurations.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br>
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Regards, The Spectrum Scale (GPFS) team<br>
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From:        </span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"</span><a href="mailto:Tomasz.Wolski@ts.fujitsu.com"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Tomasz.Wolski@ts.fujitsu.com</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">"
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To:        </span>gpfsug main discussion list <</span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">><span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Date:        </span>10/11/2017 02:09 AM<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Subject:        </span>Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network reconnect function may result in file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)<span style="color:#5F5F5F"><br>
Sent by:        </span></span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi, From what I understand this does not affect FC SAN cluster configuration, but mostly NSD IO communication?<br>
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Best regards,<br>
Tomasz Wolski<br>
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From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span>
<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">[</span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ben De Luca<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:40 AM<b><br>
To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network reconnect function may result in file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br>
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Lyle thanks for the update, has this issue always existed, or just in v4.1 and 4.2?<br>
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It seems that the likely hood of this event is very low but of course you encourage people to update asap.
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On 11 October 2017 at 00:15, Uwe Falke <</span><a href="mailto:UWEFALKE@de.ibm.com" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">UWEFALKE@de.ibm.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">>
 wrote:<br>
Hi, I understood the  failure to occur requires that the RPC payload of<br>
the RPC resent without actual header can be mistaken for a valid RPC<br>
header. The resend mechanism is probably not considering what the actual<br>
content/target the  RPC has.<br>
So, in principle, the RPC could be to update a data block, or a metadata<br>
block - so it may hit just a single data file or corrupt your entire file<br>
system.<br>
However, I think the likelihood that the RPC content can go as valid RPC<br>
header is very low.<br>
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards<br>
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Dr. Uwe Falke<br>
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From:   Ben De Luca <</span><a href="mailto:bdeluca@gmail.com"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">bdeluca@gmail.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">><br>
To:     gpfsug main discussion list <</span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">><br>
Cc:     </span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br>
Date:   10/10/2017 08:52 PM<br>
Subject:        Re: [gpfsug-discuss] FW: [EXTERNAL] FLASH: IBM Spectrum<br>
Scale (GPFS) V4.1 and 4.2 levels: network reconnect function may result in<br>
file system corruption or undetected file data corruption (2017.10.09)<br>
Sent by:        </span><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><br>
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does this corrupt the entire filesystem or just the open files that are<br>
being written too?<br>
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One is horrific and the other is just mildly bad.<br>
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On 10 October 2017 at 17:09, IBM Spectrum Scale <</span><a href="mailto:scale@us.ibm.com"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">scale@us.ibm.com</span></a><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">> wrote:<br>
Bob,<br>
<br>
The problem may occur when the TCP connection is broken between two nodes.<br>
While in the vast majority of the cases when data stops flowing through<br>
the connection, the result is one of the nodes getting expelled, there are<br>
cases where the TCP connection simply breaks -- that is relatively rare<br>
but happens on occasion. There is logic in the mmfsd daemon to detect the<br>
disconnection and attempt to reconnect to the destination in question. If<br>
the reconnect is successful then steps are taken to recover the state kept<br>
by the daemons, and that includes resending some RPCs that were in flight<br>
when the disconnection took place.<br>
<br>
As the flash describes, a problem in the logic to resend some RPCs was<br>
causing one of the RPC headers to be omitted, resulting in the RPC data to<br>
be interpreted as the (missing) header. Normally the result is an assert<br>
on the receiving end, like the "logAssertFailed: !"Request and queue size<br>
mismatch"  assert described in the flash. However, it's at least<br>
conceivable (though expected to very rare) that the content of the RPC<br>
data could be interpreted as a valid RPC header. In the case of an RPC<br>
which involves data transfer between an NSD client and NSD server, that<br>
might result in incorrect data being written to some NSD device.<br>
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Disconnect/reconnect scenarios appear to be uncommon. An entry like<br>
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[N] Reconnected to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx nodename <c0n0><br>
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in mmfs.log would be an indication that a reconnect has occurred. By<br>
itself, the reconnect will not imply that data or the file system was<br>
corrupted, since that will depend on what RPCs were pending when the<br>
connection happened. In the case the assert above is hit, no corruption is<br>
expected, since the daemon will go down before incorrect data gets<br>
written.<br>
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Reconnects involving an NSD server are those which present the highest<br>
risk, given that NSD-related RPCs are used to write data into NSDs<br>
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Even on clusters that have not been subjected to disconnects/reconnects<br>
before, such events might still happen in the future in case of network<br>
glitches. It's then recommended that an efix for the problem be applied in<br>
a timely fashion.<br>
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