<div dir="ltr">Hi Kevin,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the response, but that page is still not helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>We will not be exporting any data from the GPFS cluster through the AFM gateways. Data will be coming from external NFS data sources, through the gateway nodes INTO the GPFS file systems.</div><div><br></div><div>Reading that licensing page suggests a client license is acceptable in this situation. There is no mention of AFM explicitly as a function of the server license.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Luke.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 14:20 Kevin D Johnson <<a href="mailto:kevindjo@us.ibm.com">kevindjo@us.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_329040747650360870socmaildefaultfont gmail_msg" dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">An AFM gateway node would definitely be a server licensed node.  Here are the working definitions, and yes, this would be true for the various editions of IBM Spectrum Scale:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Thanks for the feature matrix, but it doesn't really say anything about client / server licenses. Surely you can have clients and servers in all three flavours - Express, Standard and Advanced.</div> 

<div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 at 12:07 Andrew Beattie <<a href="mailto:abeattie@au1.ibm.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">abeattie@au1.ibm.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">I think you will find that AFM in any flavor is a function of the Server license, not a client license.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">i've always found this to be a pretty good guide, although you now need to add Transparent Cloud Tiering into the bottom column</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">HI All,
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<div class="gmail_msg">I have a tantalisingly interesting question about licensing...</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">When installing a couple of AFM gateway nodes into a cluster for data migration, where the AFM filesets will only ever be local-updates, those nodes should just require a client license, right? No GPFS data will leave through those nodes, so I can't see any valid argument for them being server licensed.</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">Anyone want to disagree?</div>
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