[gpfsug-discuss] [External] Re: Quota Idea / RFE

Peter Childs p.childs at qmul.ac.uk
Mon Jul 11 09:50:42 BST 2022


Indeed, copying quota's within AFM is not really a very good use/case.

However, there are loads of other use case where you need to copy quota's between file systems, or want to change quota's where text file editing with mmedquota, mmsetquota or using default quota's is not flexible enough.

Peter



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Home and cache can have different amounts of disk space used, so "replicating quotas" is mostly pointless, unless you populate cache with all the data at home. But yes, this was something that hurt when I was running AFM some time ago. We saw the AFM queues "stall" when this happened (and eventually crash).

And then you have the problem that you might have different replication factors for your AFM home and cache, and that makes what the quota should be a hard question. E.g. my super fast ingest system (1 copy, cache) and my slow long-term store (2 copies, home).

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From: gpfsug-discuss <gpfsug-discuss-bounces at gpfsug.org> On Behalf Of Ryan Novosielski
Sent: 08 July 2022 17:03
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Subject: [External] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Quota Idea / RFE

I have a similar issue related to AFM: you can have two different quotas on the AFM home and cache (which I can't really see why you would ever want to do, but whatever), and there's not currently a way to syncrhornize them even if you want to (which you almost always would).

The behavior you get if you allow a cache to fill, for example, but being over quota on the at-home fileset is very strange (you get persistent load average on involved machines, etc., which are trying to play back writes).

On 7/1/22 05:50, Peter Childs wrote:
> I've opened a Spectrum Scale Idea for Enhancement, https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibm-sys-storage.ideas.ibm.com%2Fideas%2FGPFS-I-857&data=05%7C01%7Csthompson2%40lenovo.com%7C3970173257fd4b75415f08da60fb9221%7C5c7d0b28bdf8410caa934df372b16203%7C0%7C0%7C637928930859469707%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zhBpDIU2B5vkOIhJCvEqAX4DGWgfngZT%2BzBsjZzPV5A%3D&reserved=0 I suspect I'm not the first one trying to achieve this so it might be worth upvoting the idea.
>
> Basically I'd like to see some way to copy quotas between filesystems, either within scale and outside that can in theory be already done with mmedquota -F but there is no way to dump the quotas in this format currently.
>
> Thanks
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